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At a Berlin church, Muslim refugees converting in droves
heraldcourier.com ^ | September 4, 2015 | AP

Posted on 09/04/2015 2:24:22 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Mohammed Ali Zonoobi bends his head as the priest pours holy water over his black hair. "Will you break away from Satan and his evil deeds?" pastor Gottfried Martens asks the Iranian refugee. "Will you break away from Islam?"

"Yes," Zonoobi fervently replies.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Islam
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1 posted on 09/04/2015 2:24:22 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Ahhhh taquiyyah, works great everywhere in the Western world. Now where’s my welfare?


2 posted on 09/04/2015 2:31:54 AM PDT by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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To: john drake
'greedy for the good life'
3 posted on 09/04/2015 2:37:30 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Muslim groups try to boast of (and inflate) the number of muslims in the world, but in a good portion on the world, so called ‘muslims’ have no choice in the matter.

They are born into it, taxed into it, and in the case of Saudi Arabia, denied any other texts. Some places even have a death sentence for any ‘muslim’ who’d dare convert away from the faith. Where are the so-called ‘moderate’ muslims to denounce that death sentence for apostates? Where are they to stand up against discrimination by law against non-muslims (jizza tax, banned from segregated cities of Mecca and Medina, unable to access or practice their faith)?


4 posted on 09/04/2015 2:41:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Will Bernie Sanders run as an Independent if he does not get the nomination of the Democrat Party?)
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To: a fool in paradise
Some places even have a death sentence for any ‘muslim’ who’d dare convert away from the faith.

IIRC, the penalty for 'apostacy' is universal in Islam. Some places are just more adamant about enforcing it.

5 posted on 09/04/2015 2:45:17 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: john drake

not necessarily in this case. They can stay Moslem and remain in Germany. Also, Iranis in particular are people who could convert from Islam — Islam was imposed on them by the Arab conquerors and Iranis KNOW this


6 posted on 09/04/2015 3:17:51 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

At least there is a possibility now that a few will actually convert, in spite of themselves. Fake it till you make it.


7 posted on 09/04/2015 4:01:34 AM PDT by hemogoblin (We're all on Flight 93, now)
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To: john drake

I like to think it is possible for some former moslems to actually be real, born-again Christians. I don’t have an “elector detector” and just have to pray this work isn’t in vain.

“Successful evangelism is sharing Christ in the power of the Holy Spirit and leaving the results to God.”


8 posted on 09/04/2015 4:24:27 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: john drake

yea, I expect you are right.

Germany is overrun with muslims..


9 posted on 09/04/2015 4:26:44 AM PDT by aces
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Assuming these people know what can happen after their conversion theirs are pretty courageous acts.


10 posted on 09/04/2015 4:30:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: a fool in paradise

And because Islam was mostly spread by conquest, they are practicing the religion of their conquerors.


11 posted on 09/04/2015 5:40:42 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: a fool in paradise

Good news. Convert them—give them Christian Names. They must become Christian or be beheaded now—Welsome to the party—but—you picked the winning side.


12 posted on 09/04/2015 5:57:25 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Cronos

Persia strikes me as an obvious candidate for conversion . . . going back to apostolic times. How was it missed . . . or fumbled? Christianity had a six-century head start on Islam.


13 posted on 09/04/2015 6:24:48 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Berlin_Freeper

But no words of Baptism? Maybe I need to read the whole article.


14 posted on 09/04/2015 7:15:12 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Yes, it was in the article.

**Martens then baptizes the man “in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.”**


15 posted on 09/04/2015 7:17:14 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Good for them.


16 posted on 09/04/2015 7:17:18 AM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; Kolokotronis

This is a synod in communion with the LCMS here in the USA. It is a “free” church, not a state supported one.


17 posted on 09/04/2015 12:09:12 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: hemogoblin

I had an Iranian coworker whose Dad flew F4s for the Shaw.

My coworker converted when he was a teen. His mom was furious for years, until she converted. Now, she is more evangelical than he ever was.

There is hope and great reward. I felt blessed to hear his stories.


18 posted on 09/04/2015 4:25:34 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Ye must be born again.” This is not merely “conversion” from one religion to another. Do the refugees know this?


19 posted on 09/04/2015 6:18:01 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A lot of educated Iranians have rejected Islam because of the corruption of their Mullahs. So there are a lot of conversions, mostly secret, in that country. So many of their conversions are probably real.

And I don’t base this on “Christian” publications but on a comment by a website discussing war and conflicts.

However this might not be true for the Arabs.


20 posted on 09/05/2015 4:44:35 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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