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Luther Will Have a Square in the Middle of Rome
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Posted on 08/24/2015 6:08:28 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: vladimir998
Just jump to the part where you tacitly admit your defeat by posting pictures. Save us all the usual time.


121 posted on 08/26/2015 6:04:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998

The Man and the Image


122 posted on 08/26/2015 6:04:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rabidralph

details. Certain churches ignore them.


123 posted on 08/26/2015 6:05:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
That is precisely what Luther and his spiritual children do, to this day.

Don't worry; your Francis will clear up the mess.

124 posted on 08/26/2015 6:05:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981

Your whitewash is all the vulgarity the subject requires.


125 posted on 08/26/2015 7:05:05 AM PDT by xone
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To: redgolum
The statement “Least of the Least of the Messiah’s brethren” is something I honestly don’t understand."

This is what I mean (bold emphasis mine). Catholics generally include the Jews as brethren of the Messiah while Protestants generally do not.

When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty five, Protestant verses thirty one to forty six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

126 posted on 08/26/2015 7:29:15 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

bump


127 posted on 08/26/2015 10:10:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
Catholics generally include the Jews as brethren of the Messiah while Protestants generally do not.

Proving Protestants teach and believe as Christ did. Read the scriptures.

128 posted on 08/26/2015 3:23:49 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone
Proving Protestants teach and believe as Luther did. I have read the scriptures from my youth.
129 posted on 08/26/2015 6:05:30 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

In that context, they are the brethren as much as all are.

I have never heard of any Protestant synod, denomination, or church who has claimed otherwise. I have seen the writings of Catholic theologians and saints who hold that the Jews are the killers of Christ and that even converts should be held with suspicion and fear for their Judazing ways.


130 posted on 08/26/2015 6:11:33 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
In that context, they are the brethren as much as all are.

Well done brother !

I have never heard of any Protestant synod, denomination, or church who has claimed otherwise.

The Protestant communities who believe in Replacement Theology reject the Jewish people as being brethren of the Messiah and imagine the Parable of the Sheep and Goats does not include them.

I have seen the writings of Catholic theologians and saints who hold that the Jews are the killers of Christ and that even converts should be held with suspicion and fear for their Judazing ways.

You will not read any of that in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Blessed Pope John Paul II, a frail old man who saved a Jewish refugee in the Holocaust, walked to the Western Wall in Jerusalem to place a plea for forgiveness for all the antisemitism and sins by Catholics. I know of no Protestant faith community as friendly to Jews as the Catholics. Theological antisemitism is a huge impediment to being honestly friendly to the Jews. Billy Graham stumbled badly here and lied about it. However President Nixon had him on tape so he was busted and eventually admitted to what became public record.

131 posted on 08/26/2015 6:53:13 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
I have read the scriptures from my youth.

A shame you are prevented from understanding them.

132 posted on 08/27/2015 7:17:43 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone
A shame you are prevented from understanding them.

Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying, Go and cry in the ears of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; I remember thee, the kindness of thy youth, the love of thine espousals, when thou wentest after me in the wilderness, in a land that was not sown. Israel was holiness unto the LORD, and the firstfruits of his increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith the LORD.
Jeremiah, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses one to two,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

133 posted on 08/27/2015 7:52:11 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: .45 Long Colt

So Luther was able to think for himself, this brilliant man who led people to the true church of Protestantism, somehow couldn’t rid himself of his anti-Semitism because he was young and heavily influenced by the Roman Catholic Church.

Yeah, that logic stands up.


134 posted on 08/30/2015 5:22:05 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Lil Flower

Believe what you want about Luther. I don’t care what anyone thinks of him. I’m neither German nor Lutheran and I might have as many disagreements with Luther as I do your pope. That said I’m a Protestant who appreciates the significance of what Luther and the other Reformers accomplished. Recovering the gospel of free grace was no small feat. I recognize I’m a beneficiary of what they did, as are all Americans, including Jews and Roman Catholics.

I understand you have a problem with Luther’s anti-Semitism. I’m with you there and I said as much in this very thread. I will presume you are as concerned about Rome’s sordid history of anti-Semitism as you are Luther’s.

Also, I’ve never heard of the church of Protestantism.


135 posted on 08/30/2015 6:23:07 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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