Posted on 08/17/2015 6:07:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
How do you know?
Because I've read it.
Why do you believe that?
Muslims read things too. why aren’t you a Muslim?
How do you know what you read is reliable?
Why do you question it?
How do you know the Word is not reliable? Why do you question His Word? Do you not believe?
I’m not.
I’m questioning YOU.
What can you say for yourself?
“Of which we have zero proof in the Word.”
No, not for those with eyes to see. Those of us who are orthodox Christians rather than Protestants understand the importance of the wedding of Cana in this regard. You will not.+
“You might read against the injunctions about praying to idols.”
I have many times. I read scripture often. And what anyone can tell - anyone who isn’t a bigot of course - is that Mary, the mother of Jesus is not an idol, is not worshiped, and is a human being who required Christ’s grace as we all do. You might want to review verses about the evil of bearing false witness.
“It’s in the New Testamemt.”
It’s in the Old Testament first. And I’ve read all of them. And I’ve read those books of the Bible you probably never have.
“It’s better than being an idolaters.”
But with you it probably isn’t as enjoyable as bearing false witness right?
Anti-Catholics have to resort to lying. It’s their way:
“To Protestantism False Witness is the principle of propagation.” (John Henry Newman, Lecture 4. True Testimony Insufficient for the Protestant View)
Don’t impute unbelief to me.
Peter says you must be ready to explain your faith. Please do so. Tell me why Scripture is reliable.
And no circular arguments. “I believe it’s reliable because it says so.” None of that, ok?
What ya got?
. Catholics pray to Mary in contradiction of the Word; they have erected idols of her in their churches which they kneel before and pray to in contradiction of the Word. They've elevated her role, by some writers, to essentially telling Jesus what to do and He does it.
. If all that isn't worship then Catholics are totally blind in this issue.
They cannot offer one clear text from the NT that ever accords Mary any of these attributes. Not one.
As you are the one questioning the reliability of scripture, the burden is upon you to show why it’s not. I’m growing tired of your little game.
So much for the bogus Scripture Alone game some people play because they constantly rely on their own personal choice of non-Scripture resources rather than Scripture.
This incoherent rambling is comical coming from a faith that cherry picks scripture out of context and reads into it what is not there and selectively cherry picks the ECFs. I give you the Roman Catholic Church. But there may a small ray of hope yet. Another thread had a catholic Msgr beginning to use the Greek. Good to hear even though it is 2000 yrs late.
Scripture Alone is your petard, hoist yourself.
“pray without ceasing;”
We have a form of ascesis called prayer of the heart. It is the unceasing repitition of a certain prayer throughout the day, an unceasing prayer:
“Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.”
It takes a little practice, but after awhile it becomes as easy and regular as breathing. It becomes the background mantra of your life.
“I wonder sometimes why you and nkp_vet post these in the open forum if you anticipate there will be contrasting comments”.
I post the truth. If you can’t handle the truth that’s your problem, not mine. Try reading the words of the founder of your “faith”. His name was Martin Luther, and he had
the exact same views are any Catholic has today.
Well, it's not a game and it's not bogus. I know you've been told that by your church. They wish to retain relevance and power. That's the game they play and it is bogus. How did the wise men know to seek out the Child that was born in Bethlehem? Did their Church send them? Did their Pope send them? Did Jesus say "Search the Scriptures . ." John 5:39 or search the priests for their answers? Is the Word a lamp unto our feet or not? Is every Word pure, or not? Should I listen to you and your church or God? I already know my answer to these questions so no need to answer them for my sake.
Mary had read the Scriptures.
Andrew and Peter had read the Scriptures.
Jesus said "it is written a lot."
You might try searching the Scriptures. They hold the Truth.
Sorry, logic doesn’t work that way. You don’t ask people to prove a negative.
I take it you have nothing to offer? No basis for your belief in scripture?
I post the truth.
Not regarding Mary, catholics don't.
If you can’t handle the truth that’s your problem, not mine.
Trust me...I don't mind the engagement....one of your fellow catholics though has a tendency to run to the RM when the heat is on.
Try reading the words of the founder of your “faith”. His name was Martin Luther, and he had the exact same views are any Catholic has today.
Bad news for you....Luther isn't the "founder" of my faith.
So Luther is back to being on the good list again?
That poor guy doesn't know if he's coming or going with you catholics. One day is evil....next day a saint.
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