Posted on 08/17/2015 6:07:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
I guess I should have said:
"Someone with both vision and discernment told me that if you’re quiet inside, you can hear Satan’s laughter playing like a soundtrack throughout these discussions.Embarrassing. Sorry about that. A life-damaged, poorly-tuned receiver with dirty lenses, that’s me, both before and still after I set out to hike the path of the Christian seeker.And, if you look up, you’ll see Jesus weeping as the arguers cut Him again and again, just as when He walked among us as a man, His robes stained red with His Blood, just like in the past."
Some amazing views on this side of the hill. Wow!
“I said nothing that was false, and you can’t be seriously wishing me the best if you’re going to keep posting things about what I said that are not true.”
Vlad old fellow, we will continue to disagree. I believe what you posted is false. I don’t interpret that as a purposeful evil at all, but a lack of understanding of the whole counsel of God. You do not. You see it quite differently. No worries mate.
Despite disagreeing, I continue to wish you the best and not evil. We are all works in progress. I just pray, He decides how to implement on earth. I submit. I trust Him.
best.
Oh — one more thing. In regard to translations and especially the problems translating into English: I read that Jaroslav Pelikan translated “Theotokos” as “the one who gives birth to the one who is God.” I guess that is supposed to be pretty literal as far as the meaning goes, but would be one awkward mouthful if used liturgically!
The same way the first Christians in Antioch did. The same way the Kakure Kirishitan did.
Thanks for asking.
Both faith and His Word come from God.
He doesn’t need the Church in order for His Plan to succeed.
By His grace, we are part of His Royal family and are His bride. We are given to the Son by the Father.
placemarker
The OT was used to point to Christ.
“So now this version of the Bible is acceptable to you?”
I said nothing about the version. I merely posted a footnote from it to show how out of step you Freeper anti-Catholics are with even your fellow Protestants. I guess you can’t actually argue the point so you’re going to question the source or rather my use of a Protestant source? Yeah, looks like it.
“Bottom line....you’re reading something in the text that is not there.”
Except that it is there - and that’s what the editors of the Protestant Bible I posted from clearly believe.
“I just pray...”
If that were true, then you wouldn’t be posting here.
So?
Got any answers to my questions?
People on this thread might appreciate it. Here's a link with Kyrie eleison following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR3Y5hDncn4
Here's the English translation:
"It is truly right to bless you, Theotokos, ever blessed, most pure, and mother of our God. More honorable than the Cherubim, and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim, without corruption you gave birth to God the Word. We magnify you, the true Theotokos."
We don’t throw out the Old Testament. We also don’t rely on a fallible human institution to do our thinking for us given its poor track record. The Catholic Church put Galileo under house arrest for his heliocentric papers (which were correct). Any church that incorporates torture and death to its critics would not be fit to interpret Scripture for me.
I love how Catholics are sooo modest about someones past efforts in history. We are talking about Gods Word, aren't we? Maybe God had something to do with it and men were the mere instrument to write and compile what they were moved to. Read 2Sam 23:2, Ezek. 1:3, Micah 1:1, 2Pet 1:21, etc . . . There is no person alive today that compiled it that's for sure.
“If that were true, then you wouldn’t be posting here.”
Sure Vlad! Whatever you claim!
Best with prayer.
Yes, and maybe not. What the heck are Sam, Ezek, Micah, and Pet — and why should I stake my life on what they say? How do you know any of this stuff matters?
"Stardate 2015 - We were under constant pressure from Romulan telemarketers, the incessant ringing of our communication devices, demands to buy things we did not want, pitches for aluminum siding, reductions on our credit card interest, and some highly unusual knock off of the Got Milk advertising campaign."
“Best with prayer.”
Which you’re clearly not making if you’re spending your time posting.
The context being the Bible and its interpretation, I thought you might be familiar with the authors Samuel (OT), Ezekiel(OT), Micah(OT), and Peter (NT). The abbreviations are common place amongst Prots.
“Which you’re clearly not making if you’re spending your time posting.”
Sure vlad!
When you say that Mary is the mother of Jesus do you mean in the biological sense? Or do you also mean that she is the mother of the divine nature? If so, it cannot mean that she's the mother in the sense of being before the divine nature the same way that all mothers are the progenitors of their offspring. It cannot mean that she is in a superior position than the divine Word since she is a creature and the Word, the Second Person of the Trinity, existed before her.
When you say the Jesus is God, the Second Person of the Trinity you are affirming that Jesus has a divine nature as well as a human nature, united in one person, Jesus.
However, if you are saying that Mary is the mother of the divine essence it is just as wrong as saying that Jesus is the Trinity.
Cordially,
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