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To: af_vet_1981
The seven churches of Asia were bona fide churches of the one holy catholic apostolic church.

Wrong again. Why do you insist in making question-begging assertions which are shown to be false. The letters to the 7 churches are critiques of them, both positive and negative, and yet in absolutely zero of them is any exhortation of the pope or Rome, or clergy distinctively titled "priests," or the Eucharist, or praying to Mary, or other "saints" or angels, or any distinctive Cath teachings.

Despite their problems or qualities, none of the things considered to be primary teachings or practices are exhorted as a solution (as Rome surely would in such a case) or commended as a quality.

Instead, the Lord commands His word to be written, and examining and judging men as false apostles is commended, and which Rome's purported successors surely are, lacking both the requirements and credentials of Biblical apostolic successors. (Acts 1:21,22; 1Cor. 9:1; Gal. 1:11,12; 2Cor. 6:1-0; 12:12)

Nor is their any intimation of a postmortem process that would provide the holiness that is exhorted, as instead the only growth in grace is set forth as in this life, and one is either walking in true faith or not, with being with the Lord being the next stop for those who are of true faith, which is manifest by works, as reformers preached .

Biblical repentance in response to what is written is what is required, while there simply is no evidence that these were RC churches, even though submission to the pope and partaking of the Eucharist and pray to saints etc. is what Rome exhorts in such cases, when she is not treating Teddy K Caths as members in life and in death.

He both commended and criticized them, warning them repeatedly to do the works. I don't see him writing letters to tares, but rather to those in danger of losing their salvation. He threatened to remove those churches' candlesticks if they did not repent and do the works.

The candlesticks are the churches, (Rv. 1:20) which testifies to churches ceasing to be such, which will not happen to the body of Christ. The Lord via His angel to John does warn churches and souls to repent, or else the Lord will remove the church (though a form of it could remain) or fight against souls in a church that held to false doctrine such as that of the Nicolaitans.

There are no letters to the Reformation, Chuck Smith, Aimee Semple McPherson, or any other Protestant denomination, sect, branch, or faith community.

You have popes and at least one nun who outdid Aimee, but these letter easily could be written to evangelical churches and be perfectly applicable, while such is not the manner of written of Rome in exhorting repentance and growth in grace.,

I see a 1500 year gap with disparate streams of denominations,

You can see what you want, which shows blindness as regards the evidence against Rome, as well as the basis for being both a true Jew and true church.

Again, is your argument is that if one cannot show formal descent from the historical magisterium but dissents from it, then such necessarily cannot have validity? And that being the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation (oral and written) means that such is that assuredly infallible magisterium. Thus any who knowingly dissent from the latter must be in rebellion to God?

221 posted on 07/30/2015 4:50:38 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212
The seven churches of Asia were bona fide churches of the one holy catholic apostolic church.

Wrong again.

The Messiah himself wrote to these churches. Of a certainty they were bona fide churches of the one holy catholic apostolic church, albeit in danger of losing their candlesticks unless they repented and did the works.

226 posted on 07/31/2015 6:24:27 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: daniel1212

New Testament churches are now all ex post facto’d into Catholic churches.

History incorrectly re written to fit an agenda.

The Christianity that Jesus created trumps it all.


228 posted on 07/31/2015 4:10:29 PM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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