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To: kosciusko51
Thank you for a gracious reply. The largest problem I see with the invisible church position is that it does not conform with the scriptures. If you accept the premise that branches can be broken off and cast out of the kingdom for unbelief, failing to repent from mortal sin, falling away, then it fits together better. Nonetheless, these scriptures are obviously not speaking about an invisible church, but rather a visible, identifiable, and at times, very local, holy catholic apostolic church.

Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Then had the churches rest throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Matthew, Catholic chapter eighteen, Protestant verses fifteen to eighteen,
Acts, Catholic chapter nine, Protestant verse thirty one,
Revelation, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verse seventeen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

209 posted on 07/29/2015 4:19:55 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
The largest problem I see with the invisible church position is that it does not conform with the scriptures.

Those 7 very visible CATHOLIC churches in Asia didn't CONFORM very well; either!

214 posted on 07/30/2015 5:09:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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