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To: imardmd1
- the reintegration of the souls and spirits of the righteous saints with their new eternally living bodies of flesh and bone, like that of the resurrected Jesus;

Whoa! Flesh cannot enter the Kingdom of God.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

768 posted on 08/03/2015 10:22:02 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

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>> “Flesh cannot enter the Kingdom of God.” <<

Butttt...............

(it’s his only hope!)


770 posted on 08/03/2015 10:33:02 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Have you not read the letter tot he Corinthians that you quoted from? we shall ALL be changed, in the twinkling of an eye, to incorruptible from corruptible, so the body we are transformed into will not be corruptible flesh, but it will have physicality. I could explain it to you in more technical detail but something tells me you don’t want to have anything impinge upon your comfy level of understanding.


774 posted on 08/03/2015 10:45:00 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
You already have been made aware that we do not support your preterist foolishness. Why do you persist at posting this garbage?

Your slip is showing. I did not say "flesh and blood" -- I said "flesh and bone." Whereas in the old body, life was in the blood--as long as it was being oxygenated, protein- and fat-enriched, flowing, waste products being removed. That was. But now, life is in the spirit, and that is what now moves the bodies of those resurrected from the dead ones. Surely you can figure this out from Scripture:

"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have" (Lk. 24:39 AV).

Jesus was not a spirit, wraith, or insubstantial ghost. H was and still is a real walking, talking, eating, fighting, loving, perfected Human, representing the future race of real brethren we will emulate in body, soul, and spirit.

Please, in the future, please save me some time by checking your doctrinr out thoroughly before you try to correct others. I am willing to help you out, when you begin to display an open Berean-type mind and attitude. In His new post-Resurrection body Jesus walked with his uncle Cleopas who was most likely accompanied by His mother Mary's sister (whose name was also Mary), in His flesh-and-bone body, yet they did not recognize Him. After pumping them for their take on the recent happenings, after evaluating them He gave His estimate of their mindset, and began to disciple them anew:

"Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself" (Lk. 24:25-27 AV).

They did not recognize Him in this glorified, but not astoundingly different flesh-and-bone Spirit-animated body until they saw the blueness of the wounds in His hands as He gave thanks according to His customary way, and broke bread (not unleavened) for them, then just--vanished!

Now, what value do you think He would put on the untutored chattering you've been doing? You're just as accountable to Him as I am, so we'd better watch out how we handle His Written Word!

Why don't you read John 21:1-22 where the risen Jesus made a fire, caught and cooked some fish together with theirs, and cross-examined Peter as to whether he was yet in enough of a faithful frame of mind to stat to claim Jesus rather than deny any association with Him. I see no haloes described there, nor anybody dressed in fancy clothes except maybe a white tunic or two. Wasn't Jesus reunified with a flesh-and-bone permanent eternal body there on the Gennesaret seashore?

And did not Mary Magdalene recognize a normal, bipedal, ordinarily clothed human person there at Golgotha, recognizing the person as Jesus only when He addressed her as her Beloved Rabbi customarily did?

Now, take it from John who had seen Him during those forty days of validation of His resurrection, did not John say with authority as he wrote to the believers he had discipled:

"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ" (1 Jn. 1-3 AV).

My FRiend, John and his fellow disciples saw, heard, and toucherd him both before and after His cross-death and rebirth from the dead ones. If someone refutes that Jesus was then and still is a full-fleshed human with skeletal construction, and in Heaven, sitting at the right hand of The Father in a flesh body, and that we can have confidence in a Man representing us in God's Heaven, it certainly indicates that the person's religious education is defective. Furthermore:

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is" (1 Jn. 3:2 AV).

If that person is not aware that he is to have the same kind of flesh-and-bone eternally living Spirit-activated body, inaugurated at the moment of rising to meet the Lord in the air and being translated--in the simultitude as Enoch and Elijah--his/her very salvation comes into question, and he/she needs to take inventory:

"Examine yourselves, whether ye be in The Faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? " (2 Cor. 13:5 AV; my emphasis, The Faith here should be capitalized as a proper noun and articulate for specificity of The Only Saving Faith).

A person willung to improve his/her education in the Gospel might perform a search on the AV text for the string "in the faith."

So much for now, FRiend.

791 posted on 08/03/2015 3:12:37 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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