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To: Bob434

There are several ways the rapture/ resurrection can take place that’s fun to consider I think...

One is to make it evident to the whole world; that everyone would become aware it took place. The Holy Spirit does not specifically teach us what this event will be like exactly, it may very well be a loud announced event and it may not.

The trumpet sound and a shout indicates an official “announcement.” God often introduced things with a “voice” from heaven: the Law from Mt. Sinai, the sound was deafening like a trumpet. The Father speaking to Jesus at His baptism, and on the Mount of Transfiguration. But it does not mean all will hear it. It may mean only those who are summoned will hear, or it may be quiet with the announcement taking place in heaven, we are not specifically told in Scripture.

The other way is that this event would be done secretly where no one would notice. Such as in the middle of a cataclysmic event, such as in a world war. This could make the event hidden from the world, millions would not be noticed missing because there would be more serious issues at hand. Then a deception could set in as various explanations are offered.

Many have considered that if it is a known event this would cause fear, and some would come to the realization that what the Bible has said is true. If cars or airplanes crash all over the world because the drivers are missing it would certainly be major news. They then would have to come up with an alternate explanation to make sense out of why millions of people are missing.....

.... The media could have dozens of explanations to choose from, but they would all have to be more convincing than the Bibles explanation. Especially if there is a consistency in those who are missing are all Christians. the New age already has the explanation that mankind is going to make a quantum leap in consciousness, creating a new species: Homonoeticus. That UFO’s will remove the people who have a lower consciousness, which according tho them are Christians.

Even if it were to occur this way it may not make such an impact. The church is made up of individuals collectively, the event of the rapture of the church is relative to everyone in the church at the same time. The news reports that there are 30,000 people a year missing in the US and we do not blink an eye, I don’t think several million spread around the world will bring great concern. (I’m not of the opinion that it will be several hundred million people such as 600-900 million or a billion)

There is another explanation of how millions could be missing and it may not leave an impact on those left. Why? Because of the apostasy, it will be in a time where the majority of Christians are no longer looking for Him to come. Their focus will be on the things of the world or they will be too busy building what they believe is his kingdom, readying it for him to come back sometime in the future. So in a time while the world is being so called christianized this could take place. The fact is, a minority will be taken not the majority that claim to be the church.


238 posted on 07/26/2015 9:55:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
"The media could have dozens of explanations to choose from, but they would all have to be more convincing than the Bibles explanation"

Or maybe they will be given an explaination that sounds Biblical...ie:didn't the messiah say the sheep and goats would be separated?Well...the goats are gone and here I am.

250 posted on 07/26/2015 10:43:27 PM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure:for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: caww
You've left out the most obvious way:

Twitter; Facebook, yada....

284 posted on 07/27/2015 4:37:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: caww

[[One is to make it evident to the whole world; that everyone would become aware it took place. The Holy Spirit does not specifically teach us what this event will be like exactly, it may very well be a loud announced event and it may not.]]

I always thought and was taught that that was how it would be- In recent years I’ve read things though that seem to indicate only the believers will see Him, and the unbelievers will be left wondering what happened- I don’t however think the evidence for that is too strong though- I still think the world will see, hear, and witness it and will still reject Him

[[The trumpet sound and a shout indicates an official “announcement.”]]

that was one thing about that history channel movie I mentioned- the sound (They actually did a cool job portraying the sound- every time the sound came, people knew something was about to happen- it was an eerie, otherworldy sound- it was a ‘special sound’ that just wasn’t natural, and the people in the movie knew something was about to go down once they caught on to the fact that the sound was ushering in plagues and such

[[This could make the event hidden from the world, millions would not be noticed missing because there would be more serious issues at hand. Then a deception could set in as various explanations are offered.]]

Yeah, I n that movie- the saved children disappeared (Something that isn’t inline with biblical teaching- not sure where Hagee gets that idea from- but whatever- ), the new media spun it such that the children had some weird photosensitivity and were ‘just hiding’ that they didn’t really disappear-

The news media also spun every major plague and disease that came along- with outrageous lies-

I can picture something like this happening i n the end times- It’s going to be incredible how gullible the world will become- God will send a powerful delusion and people will believe the most outrageous things in the last days-

[[Many have considered that if it is a known event this would cause fear, and some would come to the realization that what the Bible has said is true. If cars or airplanes crash all over the world because the drivers are missing it would certainly be major news. They then would have to come up with an alternate explanation to make sense out of why millions of people are missing.....]]

Which is how the movie portrayed it- Most people refused to believe, but a few slowly came to believe (but the movie had them disappear when they believed- like I said- the movie wasn’t spot on- but was kinda neat to see a visual of how things ‘could be’ In the end times- even if some of the movie was not correct, most of the movie seemed to be correct-ish)

[[the New age already has the explanation that mankind is going to make a quantum leap in consciousness, ]]

It could be that they will explain the disappearances and plagues away as being mass hallucinations as people are ‘reaching higher plateaus’ of consciousness

[[That UFO’s will remove the people who have a lower consciousness, which according to them are Christians.]]

Lol- yep- that is very likely how they are going to explain it- there is already a strong movement afoot to marginalize and denigrate CHristians as being ‘primitive’ in our thinking- not ‘evolved and progressive’, and therefore not ‘worthy of serious consideration’

[[Even if it were to occur this way it may not make such an impact.]]

I don’t think it’s going to make much of an impact on unbeleivers- I read a CHristian think tank article about people that are unsaved who have to kneel before God on judgement day- the article stated that these people are not going to go to hell and regret that they made a bad decision- they are going to dig in their heels and become even more furious with God- hence the gnashing of teeth in their uncontrollable fury-

I think there will be some who get saved, but the masses I think will still refuse to believe, even in the face of obvious supernatural God-Driven events- just like Pharaoh who knew God was behind events but refused to believe

[[So in a time while the world is being so called christianized this could take place. The fact is, a minority will be taken not the majority that claim to be the church.]]

That’s actually a good point- We know the ‘church’ will make an alliance with the antichrist- so the world will still have their ‘version of Christianity’ around- (What they think are Christians- who really are unsaved people aligning themselves with the evil one)- The world will see these ‘Christians’ compromising so severely that the ‘church’ no longer is recognizable, and therefore not a ‘threat’ to the unsaved- the church will be more fully accepted because the message of the church then will practically approve of every sin imaginable-

The explanation for the true Christian’s disappearances could be something along the liens of ‘they were radical terrorists, and the government finally got tired of dealing with them, and took care of them...” and the people will likely add “It’s about time someone did something about those far right radical nut jobs... they were dangerous!”


315 posted on 07/27/2015 9:23:18 AM PDT by Bob434
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