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To: MHGinTN
“The ones taken by Rapture Doctrine will be taken by Satan” Um, I am curious. How does that work? How does a Christian believing in the Rapture get taken by Satan since Salvation is eternal life from God by the Holy Spirit indwelling the believer? I’m curious ...

Satan will come pretending to be Jesus saying he's come to take you out of here before the real trouble starts. People will fall for it, and even deliver their family members to death, which is the devil, Satan, thinking he is Jesus.

236 posted on 07/26/2015 9:48:49 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Thank you , but is there some scripture to which you might direct me, to support this notion? As a born from above member in God's family now, I find it difficult to believe The Father would do this thing you propose. Let me explain, in an unconventional way.

When one is born from above, God puts His Life, His eternal life, by His Holy Spirit in the once dead spirit of the man. The Presence of this Spirit in the human spirit will be a resonance point to which the trumpet blast calling His Church out from the Earth will be aimed. Satan cannot play that tune. He can make pretend, but he cannot do what the Trump of God will do.

You see, God spoke, and worlds leaped into existence! How much easier it is to speak a trumpet sound and His indwelling Holy Spirit Create a new body of greater dimensional quality. In 1 John we read that when Jesus appears (and I believe this is in the Air, not upon the Earth) we shall see Him as He really is. He is dimensionally much greater than we are now. He can appear in a locked and shuttered room. He can disappear physically from a tomb. He can appear on a road, walking with forlorn disciples, then just disappear from their presence after giving thanks for the meal they were about to eat. So, how is it that we will need to be like Him in order to see Him as He really is?

If you had a world of only two spatial dimensions, a resident of that flatland would not have any way to see a sphere except it be passed through their two dimensional realm. Everywhere the sphere was in their realm as it passed through their realm, they would see but a two variable portion of the sphere, circles of growing then diminishing size. Jesus taught this to Philip in the 14th chapter of John's Gospel, when He told Philip that all he could see of God The Father was where God intersected Philips dimensional variable. But when the indwelling Hly Spirit transforms us in the twinkling of an eye, we shall be made like Him, greater dimensional beings able to see Him as He really is.

The satan cannot do such things for he has not hold on the spirit of the born from above, omly God indwells there.

243 posted on 07/26/2015 10:06:26 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Satan will come pretending to be Jesus saying he's come to take you out of here before the real trouble starts. People will fall for it, and even deliver their family members to death, which is the devil, Satan, thinking he is Jesus.

You guys ought to read the scriptures before you come up with these arguments...

We Christians don't follow Jesus or Satan when it comes to the Rapture...Satan won't deceive anyone in the Rapture...

You are sitting at your kitchen table and zoom, you are gone...No one asks you anything...You don't have a choice in the matter...

274 posted on 07/27/2015 4:17:18 AM PDT by Iscool
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