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What to do if you missed the Rapture
Youtube ^ | July 15, 2015 | Ed Hinson

Posted on 07/26/2015 8:55:19 AM PDT by MHGinTN

Here is yet more information, for those who miss the Rapture and are here after the event. This is for people, not any particular congregation of people. Please, think about it ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: opinions; rapture; tribulation
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To: Elsie
Do you actually believe God will allow jet aircraft to fall from the sky when the Muslim bomb goes off in it?

A Muslim bomb is an act of man. Removing pilots would be an act of Jesus.

No, I believe Jesus wants people to come to Him in these times. I can't see Him deliberately crashing thousands of airliners at once to do this.

641 posted on 07/30/2015 9:30:44 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: knarf; BlueDragon; aMorePerfectUnion; Zakeet; Colofornian; onedoug; Tennessee Nana

#639 ‘Appears we are at the end of this thread’ poing


642 posted on 07/30/2015 9:32:06 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
HAH ... where have I been ?

This is the first ping to me

643 posted on 07/30/2015 9:34:51 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: sasportas
A former pretribber myself, and having had numerous encounters with pretribs over the years, like on this thread, I am convinced that pretrib is a form of estoteric mysticism, a kind of gnosticism. They hold to beliefs superior to what the word actually SAYS. Like the gnostic mystics, you refuse to let passages like Rev. 20:4 correct you.

But you didn't say anything, except that I'm wrong...The wedding of the bride and groom takes place in chapter 19 before the resurrection in chapter 20...EXPLAIN THAT!!!

I'm willing to change my view if someone has the evidence to back up another position but all you guys have got is ONE verse...And it's in the wrong timeframe...

644 posted on 07/30/2015 9:38:56 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: knarf

Sorry about that, old FRiend. My mistake. See, I don’t have a ping list, I just call pings up by my faulty memory.


645 posted on 07/30/2015 9:40:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Is there anywhere on Earth during any given 24 hours that there are no planes in the skies around the globe? The Harvest of the Church from the Earth will be a world-wide event occurring at the speed of lightening coming out of the East and going to the West. Not only will there be planes falling from the sky with no pilot or co-pilot, there will be trains suddenly driverless, and huge semis zipping along the interstates suddenly driverless, and cars driverless. etc. The righteous in Christ are being harvested from the Earth. Those not in Christ are not the focus of His return int he air. Later, at the end of the Tribulation, He will destroy millions with just the sword out fo His mouth, so the death you abhor is the fate of the unrighteous, their choice.


646 posted on 07/30/2015 9:46:23 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: metmom
What else do you expect it to do? A plane without a pilot WILL eventually crash. God "lets" a lot of things happen. Why not "let" the pilotless plane behave in the normal way a pilotless plane would behave?

Letting something happen and causing something to happen are two different things. Yes, Jesus' robes will be blood-soaked in his second coming, as the bible says. But there is no rapture, and the plane thing isn't the defining thing for me, the Word is, but it should put pause in any rapture-believer that all these planes are going to crash in one day as an act of Jesus to kick off the Tribulation.

647 posted on 07/30/2015 9:46:25 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: MHGinTN

me too ... no problem ... I’ve been fractured lately anyway with Trump and politics .... and I won’t be here ..... so my only advice is .... get saved and don’t worry about it.


648 posted on 07/30/2015 9:48:05 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
You are assuming the Rapture 'kicks off the Tribulation'. It may in fact be many days or even weeks or months before the last week of Daniel's seventy weeks 'kicks off'. Once the True Spiritual Church is harvested from the Earth, it may take months for the chaos to settle enough and world-wide communications to be restored, such that the man of sin can saunter onto the scene and make a safety treaty with Israel. That is one reason some of us are proclaiming that the Rapture is very close.
649 posted on 07/30/2015 9:51:11 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
I'm an old man, so this sentence threw me a curve I am unable to follow: "I went to John 3 and can't see anything that could be the rapture there." Sorry. Um, the Spiritual Church of Jesus Christ will not be here to be deceived. When God sends 'strong delusion' the hour of testing has set in and Reb 3 tells the faihtful church they will be kept from the hour of testing and thus the testing.

By knowledge in the Word. Satan will not be tempting to me any more than Obama. Knowledge in the Word foretells one what he/she needs to watch for and what the true intention of the antiChrist are. And by the way people are being beheaded by ISIS for Jesus at this moment so we are well into the seals/vials/trumps, so if there was a rapture, it should've already happened.

When you read the Secrets of The Feasts, you will see why the following reasoning is flawed from a Feasts of Israel as God's Times perspective: "At the Seventh Trump Jesus returns and we all will be harvested at once, good, bad, everyone, and the Millennium will begin, with us almost instantly in our spiritual bodies The Fteast of Trumpets is the reference Paul makes in 1 Thess 4, not the seven trumpets of the wrath of God Great Tribulation. Paul gives the key with 'wherefore comfort one another with these sayings.' The Thessalonians had been misled to believe the tribulation had already beguna nd their dead believers had missed it. Paul wrote that section in the letter to reassure them. It is tied to the clarification he gave in the second letter where he referred to the gathering together unto the Lord and the departure before the lawless one can be revealed by the Restrainer being taken out of the way. The explanation of the word 'apostasia' is in this thread, so I won't go over it again here.

Where do you get the "departure"?

HAve a good day and keep His word in your mind during the day ... sort of what's referred to as 'diligently seeking Him'.

Oh, I study an hour a day.

650 posted on 07/30/2015 9:57:40 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
The first Bible translations of 2 Thess 2 translated 'apostasia' as 'departure'. That was what the translators gave as the meaning of the Greek word. In the context of the passages, that is an excellent rendering. It was not until the Rheims bible that the word was translated as 'revolt'.

BTW, the way you posted that drag and paste, it made it appear that I asserted the error starting at the colon and following. I must have left off a quotations mark or something, because my portion picks back up at 'The Fteast of Trumpets is the reference Paul makes in 1 Thess 4, not the seven trumpets of the wrath of God Great Tribulation.'

651 posted on 07/30/2015 10:04:25 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
Is there anywhere on Earth during any given 24 hours that there are no planes in the skies around the globe? The Harvest of the Church from the Earth will be a world-wide event occurring at the speed of lightening coming out of the East and going to the West. Not only will there be planes falling from the sky with no pilot or co-pilot, there will be trains suddenly driverless, and huge semis zipping along the interstates suddenly driverless, and cars driverless. etc. The righteous in Christ are being harvested from the Earth. Those not in Christ are not the focus of His return int he air. Later, at the end of the Tribulation, He will destroy millions with just the sword out fo His mouth, so the death you abhor is the fate of the unrighteous, their choice.

We're well into the seals/trumps/vials and it didn't happen. So since you're not out of here it's time to get crackin, learn the Word, and get ready to be tossed into prison so you can let the Holy Spirit testify through you at your trials and convert many. That's what we're here for, to convert people, not to run at the first sign of trouble.

652 posted on 07/30/2015 10:08:01 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: MHGinTN
You are assuming the Rapture 'kicks off the Tribulation'. It may in fact be many days or even weeks or months before the last week of Daniel's seventy weeks 'kicks off'. Once the True Spiritual Church is harvested from the Earth, it may take months for the chaos to settle enough and world-wide communications to be restored, such that the man of sin can saunter onto the scene and make a safety treaty with Israel. That is one reason some of us are proclaiming that the Rapture is very close.

People are being beheaded for Jesus at this very moment. The fifth seal is upon us and no worldwide plane/train crashes.

653 posted on 07/30/2015 10:15:33 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: MHGinTN
The first Bible translations of 2 Thess 2 translated 'apostasia' as 'departure'. That was what the translators gave as the meaning of the Greek word. In the context of the passages, that is an excellent rendering. It was not until the Rheims bible that the word was translated as 'revolt'.

What verse in 2thes2?

654 posted on 07/30/2015 10:28:13 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
That is your opinion, but the indications are that the Tribulation has not yet arrived. BUT when that last Gentile or Jewish soul believes on Him and is born from above, grab your butt.

Here's a short description of the effects of the Rapture:

An EMP like no one could imagine will erupt from the East and travel at the speed of lightening to the West, encircling the globe. The resulting frying of electrical circuitry not protected and appliances not unplugeed will be immediate.

Where it is night on Earth, darkness will descended like a shroud. Where it is day the catastrophes of planes crashing and trucks crashing and trains crashing and cars crashing, well, it will be such chaos that figuring out what just happened will be almost impossible, except for those who were first hand witnesses of someone disappearing right before their eyes. Two will be in a bed, one will disappear the other will be left. Two will be working in the field, one will disappear the other will be left, etc.

Children below the age of accountability will probably disappear, some right out of their parents' arms! But we don't know that from scripture except that Jesus warned 'woe to them that give suck'. Imagine the horror of a mother suckling her child and the child suddenly disappears!

The chaos to the communications systems will be near total collapse. The power generating systems for electricity will be non-functional until new transformers and generators can be put in replacement. Governments will be silenced for a season. law enforcement will cease to exist for answering distress calls. People will be trapped in elevators and only physical grappling will be able to recuse them.

Battery operated things will be exploded all over the place and fires will erupt everywhere, in drawers, in car dashes and seats, in backpacks, in kitchens, in media rooms. The chaos will be, well, beyond reasoning out. Fires in tall buildings will erupt with no means to put them out after the stored water in containers is drained out. Trains underground will cease to move and total darkness will engulf the subways. Even battery and generator emergency power will not work, having their circuitry fried.

Planes falling fromt he sky will be but one small incident pattern in a global, much larger chaos. Ontop this scene of chaos will stride one the Vatican will welcome for his organizational acumen and security countenance. The leadership of denominations such as the Episcopalians and Methodists, etc., and even some of Islam will welcome his rescue from the chaos.

The chaos will be greatest in countries with Christian numbers significant enough o be crucial tot he communications and transportation and public services. Iran will likely have very little trouble recovering fromt he event. Suadi Arabia, likewise. But places like big US cities and cities like London, Paris, HongKong, Sidney, Christchurch, cities with a significant Christian remnant, these re the palces the chaos will be greatest. ... And the blood enemies of ISrael will make their move to try and annihilate ISrael and all Jews from the face of the Earth and especially from the Middle EAst. Into this sort of scene the anti-Christ will be welcomed as a savior of civilization.

No, that level of chaos is yet to arrive. But get ready, 'cause it is coming soon.


655 posted on 07/30/2015 10:32:51 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Find the Greek word ‘apostasia’. The resource es are available ont he net. I’ll give you a link: http://biblehub.com/web/2_thessalonians/2.htm in verse three. The World English Bible is a very good English rendering from the oldest manuscripts available in our epoch.


656 posted on 07/30/2015 10:36:30 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

If you read the Revelation in it you will discover that it is the Jews, during the seventieth week of Daniel 9 prophecy, who are evangelizing the world, not the Church. 12,000 from twelve tribes of Israel are sealed by God’s Holy Spirit for this work. During the Church Age, there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile. During the Tribulation the Jews are specifically tasked with the message of salvation ONLY in the blood of Jesus.


657 posted on 07/30/2015 10:39:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
Find the Greek word ‘apostasia’. The resource es are available ont he net. I’ll give you a link: http://biblehub.com/web/2_thessalonians/2.htm in verse three. The World English Bible is a very good English rendering from the oldest manuscripts available in our epoch.

A falling away, okay. Yeah, the falling away isn't the rapture but it's the implementation of Godlessness in our society. You have to agree it gets worse every year with homosexuality and other abominations going mainstream and the government making Christianity illegal in a lot of instances.

658 posted on 07/30/2015 10:49:32 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: MHGinTN
If you read the Revelation in it you will discover that it is the Jews, during the seventieth week of Daniel 9 prophecy, who are evangelizing the world, not the Church. 12,000 from twelve tribes of Israel are sealed by God’s Holy Spirit for this work. During the Church Age, there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile. During the Tribulation the Jews are specifically tasked with the message of salvation ONLY in the blood of Jesus.

No, the Jews are but one tribe of Israel. The rest of the tribes are scattered in northwest Europe, the US and the UK countries.

659 posted on 07/30/2015 10:53:15 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
People are being beheaded for Jesus at this very moment. The fifth seal is upon us and no worldwide plane/train crashes.

Ugh!!! Christians have been being martyred for 2000 years now...That's a goodly amount of time between the 5th and 6th seals...

660 posted on 07/30/2015 10:59:38 AM PDT by Iscool
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