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To: demshateGod
One irritation I have with Christian movies is deus ex machina they all seem to rely on. Maybe this is ironically unavoidable. “Oh, so the whole thing gets resolved when the antagonist has a change of heart?”

I agree. I have nothing against such films, I just don't find them interesting. They are often heavy handed propaganda. Propaganda for the best of causes, but I don't watch films to be propagandized. I dislike when Hollywood films lecture me, too, try to teach me a better way, how to be tolerant, etc.

I think it would be far more culturally persuasive to produce good movies with sympathetic Christian characters. One such movie I saw recently was 12 Mile Road. There were secondary characters -- neighbors -- who were born again Christians, and they were portrayed as good, normal people. It was refreshing.

42 posted on 07/20/2015 3:58:35 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Couples? Same-sex COUPLES?! Don't be such a narrow-minded hate-filled clusterphobe.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
"I have nothing against such films, I just don't find them interesting. They are often heavy handed propaganda."

Ray is an evangelist. All evangelization is, by definition, propaganda.

53 posted on 07/21/2015 6:40:30 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Jeff Chandler; Morpheus2009; BlackAdderess; demshateGod

I don’t believe that this reply will be welcomed, but I have to say that Christian movies are by and large following God’s Word, while secular movies, and entertainment, are not. And that is one of the chief reasons why things are happening like “gay marriage,” and why as a people we are more and more telling God to get out and stay out, and turning to idols. The Bible says that all we do should be done for the glory of God, in Jesus’ name, and for our Lord. Those are commands for everyone, too, as Jesus is the Lord of all, and all should acknowledge that He is, and one day will. Any entertainment then should honor God, and acknowledge Jesus Christ before men.

The truth of the matter is, too, that the salvation that God purchased through the sacrifice of His Son is a story that should ever be most exciting to us as it’s the one of us delivered out of Hell, though we don’t deserve it, at God’s expense. That is like being rescued by God from being trapped eternally in the upper floors of the burning World Trade Center. Jesus Himself said of Hell that it was where the fire was never quenched and the worm never died, and there would be weeping and gnashing of teeth, with the implication that there weeping could do no good, ever. And as Paul wrote in one of his letters to one of the churches, they had not yet resisted to bloodshed. As I recall reading from one Christian, many early Christians held on to their faith at the cost of passing through the digestive systems of lions, as they believed life here was not what mattered.

I’ll also add that before I read the Bible in my thirties, about ten years ago, I loved literature and films with a spiritual, devotional love, for the higher experiences they gave. I have a bachelor’s degree in English from a good university program. A former professor of mine that I was close to has gone on to write some very successful books and now is on Harvard’s faculty. While in school I took a whole course on Hitchcock’s films, which I loved, and I ended up with several thousand books, because I wanted to read all the “great literature.” But I no longer wanted to, after reading the Bible, and I haven’t, and I feel freed. I would never have expected it, but it would really be torturous to have to. While secular literature and film seem appealing, I believe they are like drugs that give a false high and then plunge people, including many Christians, into despair and heaviness, and they don’t know why. Without Him in truth, such works are desolate, and it looks to me, previews of Hell. They deny God and His truth as if He and they don’t exist, and create a false understanding of reality, in opposition to God. That cannot satisfy, and fail to comply with God’s will.


55 posted on 07/21/2015 7:51:37 PM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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