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To: MHGinTN

Certainly I have never said that works save anyone. Works are simply the evidence of faith. Grace will not save the faithless. Again you show me your works and I will show you your faith said the Apostle James.


82 posted on 07/18/2015 6:28:12 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig
Would you agree that James was referring to the perspective of men? James was teaching that discernment may be more accurate by looking at the fruit of the Life of God in the person, not that the work would put the life of God in the person. In no way does the work place God's life into the human spirit. That is a function of God's Holy Spirit and is not dripped in via faithfulness to sacraments or pagan rites of eating the god of the pagan worship. To put so much emphasis on doing the sacramental trail, the sincere seeker is lead into striving to obtain eternal life, when God Promises to cleanse immediately and place His life into the cleansed soul by enlivening the dead human spirit. THEN the works mete for discerning the life that is in the person will glorify The Christ not the catholic.

Catholicism is a works based religion, teaching sincere people that they must work to obtain eternal life. The Truth is, straight from scriptures, that a born from above person will have a lifetime thereafter working but the glory is due the Lord not the worker, for eternal life is not earned, it is the Gift of God lest any man or woman boast.

85 posted on 07/18/2015 6:56:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: JAKraig; MHGinTN
Works are simply the evidence of faith. Grace will not save the faithless. Again you show me your works and I will show you your faith said the Apostle James.

It's good to know Scripture.

The question is not whether a believer will do good works. The question is are those good works a prerequisite to being saved or a product of something that has already occurred.

90 posted on 07/18/2015 7:27:00 AM PDT by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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