So many Catholics don’t recall the Spanish Inquisition.I’m okay with the deaths of those Catholics because Catholics were okay with the deaths of those in Spain.
These kinds of discussions always strike me as a bit off. I am not saying that this side or that side did not do something wrong, or that Galileo wasn't mistreated, or that the Inquisition wasn't bad (perhaps horrible), or that Henry VIII wasn't a lecherous murderer, but it all misses the point a bit. People want so badly to see everything as a religious issue, and in so doing completely forget that they are also just people. History is not moved entirely by faith, or even largely in all honesty. In most events like these politics is the real mover rather than religious belief itself, and this is applicable to both sides. People kill people because they feel threatened by them, and when your religion is also part of the state apparatus, as it was most often back then, that means people will die for preaching "heresy." It happens, and religion is involved, but it hardly means that Protestantism teaches people to kill Catholics, or vice versa. It is just people doing what people do, and we really should keep that in mind. After all, all those Protestants who were killing Catholics in England under Henry VIII and his children were often born and raised as Catholics, and the Catholics returned the favour at the earliest opportunity.
HEY!!!!!
What are you doing on the RF making sense like that?!?!?!?!
Don’t you know that’s not allowed?
It’s in the RF Guidelines somewhere.
I’m sure I read it somewhere there in the past.... at one time.... maybe.....IIRC....
I think it’s this the sort of thing that makes the RF look bad. It’s not discussion about beliefs. or doctrine. It’s the accusations. It’s the “My religion is better than yours” and the “Your ancestors were worst than mine” stuff.
There was evil and inexcusable acts done by both sides and it’s always a power and control thing. And frequently, religion is used for the justification of it.
And it’s WRONG when done by both sides, and both sides need to admit their own culpability in it. Denying that the Catholic church played a role in the Inquisition, doesn’t convince anyone that they were innocent in it. History has that too well established.
It would be refreshing for a Catholic to admit that the church did it and said it was wrong for doing it.
But I thnik the thin that they fear is that by admitting that their church was wrong in one area means that they have to admit that it was wrong in other areas. And some Catholics simply cannot deal with that thought. So they over react and act like the jealous spouse who criticizes their spouse themselves, but heaven help the other person who makes the same criticism. They’ll rip them apart.
Well stated.
This not aimed at you, but towards the often breathless near-mindlessness of "news" in general, and squabbling usually (except for when I'm asserting my own rights, even those given by God to all of us, if we could but gently grasp those without crushing, and distorting those, possibly harming ourselves and others in the process -- which last though not entirely prohibited is yet to be avoided as much as possible without surrendering the blessings);