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To: jobim; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
RCs follow the RCC first and foremost

That statement is a lie. It's a sin for a Christian to tell a lie.

Indeed the latter is true, but the burden is upon you as the accuser to establish that it is. Saying they follow God is meaningless, as to do so presumes He has made His will known, and what RCs follow as that source is the issue. Either RCs follow Scripture of another source first, or they follow what their church says first.

According to papal teaching, is the one duty for Catholics to follow the RC pastors as docile sheep?

Should Church law be held as the supreme Law?

Can one assuredly know what Scripture and tradition consist of and mean apart from faith that the instruments and stewards of Divine revelation is the trustworthy authoritative source on that?

What is the basis for RC assurance that Catholic teaching is correct: that of the degree of evidential warrant or the premise of ensured magisterial veracity?

106 posted on 07/01/2015 8:15:26 PM PDT by daniel1212 (uiredm,)
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To: daniel1212
Straw man argument that sets up an either/or Christ/Catholic Church. The premise is false.

Why is it so important to place the corpse upon the table (ie the Catholic Church) and continually vivisect it, scratch at it, sniff it? Since the Catholic Church is no more truthful than a corpse is a living person, what is the attraction, the magnetism, the prurient fascination with working the corpse over and over? I can see you having your discussions on an exclusively Protestant/Independent site, but why must you flog the Catholic Church incessantly on a site that attracts Christians of all backgrounds? I wouldn't do it to you.
113 posted on 07/01/2015 9:01:35 PM PDT by jobim
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To: daniel1212
It's a sin for a Christian ANYONE to tell a lie.
148 posted on 07/02/2015 5:12:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212; Last Dakotan
>>According to papal teaching, is the one duty for Catholics to follow the RC pastors as docile sheep?<<

Yes!

Canon 752: “While the assent of faith is not required, a religious submission of intellect and will is to be given to any doctrine which either the Supreme Pontiff or the College of Bishops, exercising their authentic Magisterium, declare upon a matter of faith or morals, even though they do not intend to proclaim that doctrine by definitive act. Christ's faithful are therefore to ensure that they avoid whatever does not accord with that doctrine.”

Canon 753: “While not infallible in their teaching, [Catholic bishops] are the authentic instructors and teachers of the faith for Christ's faithful entrusted to their care. The faithful are bound to adhere, with a religious submission of mind, to this authentic Magisterium of their Bishops.”

184 posted on 07/02/2015 11:25:35 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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