12 Quotes Against Sodomy That Every Catholic Should Know

TFP Student Action ^ | 12/14/2013

[markomalley]

We’re importing Hispanics, we’re importing Arabs, we’re importing Africans, we’re importing Asians.

Can you produce a document that says there is a plot to flood the country with Catholics, by virtue of them being Catholic? (vice importing non-Europeans...whose catholicism is just happenstance)

If the only ones being brought in were practicing Catholics, then I could buy off on your claim.

I could believe that Kennedy could do such a thing...but then why would Reagan (lady I checked, he wasn’t Catholic) grant all of those millions of illegals amnesty?

Also, it seems to me that most of the Spanish speaking churches sprouting up are some variety of pentecostal...sure, I see Spanish language masses, but not too many and they, St least in the DC area don’t seen to be very full.

But hey, if you have documentation, please let me know. I wouldn’t put it beyond this group of communist bishops we have these days. And I certainly wouldn’t put it beyond Democratic politicians

[ansel12]

It takes voters to destroy America.

John F. Kennedy had a dream to replace the American people with foreign voters, a different kind of voter, the importation of an endless supply of democrat voters.

“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s.

In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin.

After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”

JFK and the democrat party were pushing chain immigration, generations ago.

Here is the Democratic Party Platform that JFK ran on in 1960:

Immigration:

We shall adjust our immigration, nationality and refugee policies to eliminate discrimination and to enable members of scattered families abroad to be united with relatives already in our midst.

The national-origins quota system of limiting immigration contradicts the rounding principles of this nation. It is inconsistent with our belief in the rights of man. This system was instituted after World War I as a policy of deliberate discrimination by a Republican Administration and Congress.

The revision of immigration and nationality laws we seek will implement our belief that enlightened immigration, naturalization and refugee policies and humane administration of them are important aspects of our foreign policy.

These laws will bring greater skills to our land, reunite families, permit the United States to meet its fair share of world programs of rescue and rehabilitation, and take advantage of immigration as an important factor in the growth of the American economy.

In this World Refugee Year it is our hope to achieve admission of our fair share of refugees. We will institute policies to alleviate suffering among the homeless wherever we are able to extend our aid.

We must remove the distinctions between native-born and naturalized citizens to assure full protection of our laws to all. There is no place in the United States for “second-class citizenship.”

The protections provided by due process, right of appeal, and statutes of limitation, can be extended to non-citizens without hampering the security of our nation.

We commend the Democratic Congress for the initial steps that have recently been taken toward liberalizing changes in immigration law. However, this should not be a piecemeal project and we are confident that a Democratic President in cooperation with Democratic Congresses will again implant a humanitarian and liberal spirit in our nation’s immigration and citizenship policies.

[jjotto]

Everyone should be familiar with official Roman Catholic teaching on immigration:

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/immigration/

The collected sub-links are important for revealing just what culture-destroying policies are favored.

[markomalley]

It takes voters to destroy America.

I agree with what you wrote in this post.

But that is not some sort of plot to infiltrate this country with filthy Catholics who, being Catholic, would naturally vote Democrat.

That is a plot to infiltrate this country with filthy immigrants whom they can immediately make dependent upon government programs and thus would naturally vote Democrat.

There is a difference.

What you are asserting is that Catholics will naturally vote Catholic in all instances. However, as you can see from the data that I showed you, white Catholics vote basically no differently than the population as a whole. White Catholics have been integrated into this country for a long time and, in general, are not dependent upon government programs for their sustinence. Hispanic Catholics are more dependent upon government programs. Thus explaining their vote. White Protestants are less dependent...that means less Democrat. Black Protestants are more dependent. Thus, more Democrat.

Sort of like what LBJ said about the Voting Rights Act:

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On a related note:

One phenomenon that I have observed over my life is that, for the most part, people who were baptized Catholic will identify themselves as Catholic no matter what unless they've joined another church. Even if they haven't set foot in a Catholic church in 20 or more years. (of course the exception is those who were formerly Catholic but went and joined another church). If they identify themselves thusly to a pollster, that would skew numbers.

I know that Jews are similar in that regard, but I'm not sure the habits of Protestants on that subject.

These religion / politics polls generally do is single variable analysis -- they will look at the religion of the respodent vs the vote. How frequently does that person attend worship services vs the vote.

One thing I would love to see is for one of these polls to do an analysis looking at two variables simultaneously: the first variable is religion, the second is frequency of attendence.

My assertion has always been that faithful Catholics vote more conservatively than those who are Christmas/Easter Catholics. If that hypothesis is correct, that could be shown in an analysis described above. If your hypothesis, that Catholicism makes one more Democrat, is correct, such a chart would show that Catholics who attend Mass regularly would vote more liberal than those who are Christmas/Easter Catholics.

If I am honest with myself, I have to say that I believe that my assertion is correct, but I don't know that with certainty. I would like to find out.

Do you have a source where such an analysis (looking at voting by religion AND attendence simultaneously) has been done?

[markomalley]

Everyone should be familiar with official Roman Catholic teaching on immigration:

That is actually USCCB teaching on immigration.

The actual teaching of the Roman Catholic teaching on immigration is summarized in the Catechism:

2241 The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.

Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.

[jjotto]

When Catholic organizations and the Catholic hierarchy lobby the US Congress on immigration, are they asking for the Catechism or or they asking for the policies of the USCCB?

Regular Religion Forum readers are very familiar with the shell game of ‘Who speaks for the Church?’ Turns out, the Catholic hierarchy has different answers than FR hobbyist apologists for The Church.

“[fill in the bank] is misunderstood/misrepresented, doesn’t speak for the Church, and is poorly Catechized.”

[markomalley]

>>>>>Regular Religion Forum readers are very familiar with the shell game of ‘Who speaks for the Church?’

Is there some reason, with all the hell going on in the world, most recently Sodomite “marriage”, that you wish to attack your fellow FReepers?

You said what you said, though.

Of course, when a Catholic tries to point out when Catholic teaching is misrepresented, that’s playing a shell game; however, when a Protestant says that this group is not really Baptist or this group is not really presbyterian, our this group is not really Lutheran, or this speaker is wrong, that’s just correcting the record and is perfectly ok.

Do I have it right?

[NKP_Vet]

“It takes voters to destroy America”.

Oh yea, Kennedy’s secret plan was to DESTROY America. No the one that wants to destroy America is Obama and he has made it perfectly clear. If JFK were alive today and in politics he would be a republican. He was despised by the leftists in his own party.

[ansel12]

Yes, the pro-abortion lefty hero of the left, JFK wanted to replace the American voters, because the only future for the left was to create the immigration that he devoted himself to creating, and which devours us today, and lost us our nation.

Even here on FR, what do we see from leftwing democrats who pretend to be conservatives? The worship of democrat heroes, and the undying support of immigration, and the passion to hide from conservatives how the members of the Catholic denomination votes.

[NKP_Vet]

20% of good ole boy EVANGELICALS, you know the ones that have their own TV shows telling the world how Christian and pro-life they are, went straight in the voting booth and voted for the most radical pro-abortion president in history. But please them give a pass and say not nary a word against these hypocrites. Save all pent up frustration for Catholics. As long as you have your Obama-voting illegals to vote Catholic you can constantly put down ALL CATHOLICS......and your day is complete.

[ansel12]

Weird, someone who despises the most pro-life voters in America.

Just like I said, even here we learn the true agenda of many of our Catholics posing as pro-life conservatives as they fight for the democrats and immigration.