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To: MHGinTN
You keep wanting to see only the societal institution. what did Jesus say is His Kingdom and where is it?

Not at all. But you want to deny the existence of a visible and hierarchical church that was established by Jesus and given the authority to teach in his name. Rather, you would be one of those condemned by the Council of Jerusalem who upset the churches and disturb their peace of mind by teaching without the mandate of the legitimate pastors of the church.

76 posted on 06/29/2015 3:21:09 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
Nice try, really, a nice try. No cigar.

"you want to deny the existence of a visible and hierarchical church that was established by Jesus." NOT ONCE have I denied that there is a societal institution and that it had its first expression as a gaggle of confused men (and probably a few women, buit mostly men) in an Upper Room, whose confusion was dealt with by Jesus appearing among them in a locked and shuttered room! THAT was the start of the societal institutional Church. That church remained somewhat confused until Pentecost arrived and what Jesus had Promised fell upon them as if tongues of fire! They were meeting in t he Jewish Temple in Jerusalem for most of the first three decades right there. The First Church Council was held there. Have you not been reading the posts I've labored to offer?

When God's Holy Spirit entered believers on the Day of Pentecost, did you know that the event and scene was prophesied in the Septuagint? Do you realize there was as yet no bishoprics or deacons or other church offices? Are you aware that it was James the brother fo Jesus who issued the ruling from the first great church council, IN JERUSALEM. The council met as the earthly societal institution church, made up of members of THE ONE TRUE CHURCH which is spiritual. The members of the spiritual Church have one thing in common, one thing that identifies each and every one of them, no matter what city they were from, or what Bishopric would eventually be establish elsewhere from Jerusalem, as Members of The Church? Do you know what that cohesive 'thing' was? Can you name it, identify it? It was most definitely not membership in The Catholic Church. ... Go ahead, let your mind name it for you!

82 posted on 06/29/2015 3:33:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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