Posted on 06/29/2015 7:52:55 AM PDT by Mercat
Catholics need to show that from the early Church Fathers, up until the present that any interpretation of scripture has remained 100% identical and no teaching on scripture has changed at all.
Yet another ex-Protestant who never understood the meaning of “Sola Scriptura” and now argues against it. What exactly can one hope to prove with such sources?
I believe what Jesus says about the Word of God.
What hope? With all the power of God, is Our Hope!!!
“What exactly can one hope to prove with such sources?”
When the adversary says “Hath God said?”
We reply with God’s WORD.
My good buddy who has been Evangelical for a long time now says that he is the best interpreter of what Scripture says. Period! Maybe that is why it is called Sola.
Okay. But what about the ensuing +/-1,900 years?
I sincerely doubt that Origen of Alexandria, had he been alive to witness events during those years, would be willing to repeat that statement today.
Ooh. I love these fight threads. Jew ping!
Yeah, that’s exactly what’s wrong with America today: too many folks look to Scripture for guidance.
Did he turn into the person of the Trinity?
No, he leaving that last step to Obama.
Well then your good buddy is following scripture:
Philippians 2:12 (KJV)
Therefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Remember that on judgement day, each individual will answer for their own sins and what they have done for salvation. Neither the Pope, priest, parent, nor partner will be able to answer for the individual. Only the individual themselves. Therefore, because it is their soul/salvation that is on the line, they are the best judge as they are the one who will pay the price for any errors in interpretation.
Yeah, we should listen to the leftist freah with the funny hat.
Well, I like your explanation in regards to personal responsibility but isn’t there a danger that pride or a total reliance in one self will lead a person astray. Do you only find Truth in your own opinion? Is Sola Scriptura the reason for so many Protestant denominations?
Feelings,
Wo-o-o feelings
Wo-o-o feelings
I'd have to ask P.T. Barnum what that proves!
Mark 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
There is always a danger of incorrect interpretation for any number of reasons. That applies equally to Pope, Pastor and Priest as well. Follow yourself or follow another but if you are not following Jesus, you risk your salvation.
I am also of the opinion that the Holy Spirit will guide those who are seeking to what they need to see, hear, and understand. The revelations come as the individual is ready. Some who are still caught up in their sins, may not be at the point in their walk that they can yet give up that sin. Gently, the Holy Spirit applies pressure and when the sinner yields that part of their self to the will of God, they become more Christ like which we are called to do.
Traditions are a construct of man, for man AND HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME. For example, indulgences. Scripture is unchanging. The 27 books of the New Testament have been agreed upon by the whole of Christendom since mid 300’s AD. And the Dead Sea Scrolls show that the Old Testament remains doctrinally identical, and even textually nearly identical (spelling and punctuation changes). These scripts are from the time before Christ but are consistent with the Hebrew Cannon recognized today.
Simple question...
When Jesus was on the Earth..
he was a Jew..
what was his position on his following the scriptures...the word..and the will of the father?
Vs
The men that claimed to be the leaders of the Jewish faith
Hint
it was the men that set themselves up as leaders of his faith that persecuted him, charged him with heresy and blasphemy, and demanded he be crucified
I don’t get your point. Paul was a Jew. Peter and all the Apostles were Jews or probably the better term is Hebrews since Judaism evolved after the destruction of Jerusalem.
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