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To: af_vet_1981

Are you not familiar with the beginning of the Church and the church? How many offices of the church were there among The Church in the Upper Room, at Pentecost, in the House of Cornelius? What was the reason for the appointing of Stephen? Who presided over the first church Council at Jerusalem? Who issued the first pronouncement of that council meeting ... which member of The Church issued that first proclamation from the church at Jerusalem? When did the Apostles begin appointing deacons and other servant members of The Church to function in service to the church? And finally, when did the Bishoprics for The Church members which arose from this organizational development of the church become combined under ‘The Primate of all Bishops’?


325 posted on 06/29/2015 3:49:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
I'm frequently reminded how selective so-called Bible believers can be, as they cling to their reformed and recreated theologies. Not as if those theologies are not the best men could form in rebellion, even if not of their own making. Once Saved, Always Saved is imagination at work, and imagine someone answering the Messiah with OSAS in any of these passages; works, works, works ..., else the profession of faith is in vain.

And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables? The sower soweth the word. And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts. And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness; And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended. And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word, And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful. And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred. And he said unto them, Is a candle brought to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick? For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad. If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given. For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath.

And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are called, but few are chosen.

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Mark, Catholic chapter four, Protestant verses thirteen to twenty five ,
Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty two, Protestant verses one to fourteen,
Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses fourteen to twenty two,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

Lest a heretic mock the church of the Laodiceans for being catholic, and thus the Messiah himself, I would remind such a one that if judgment begins with the house of God and we scarcely be saved, the future of a an illegitimate, heretical faith community attendee who despises the one holy catholic apostolic church is ... unprofitable.

328 posted on 06/30/2015 9:21:14 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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