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LAUDATO SI’
Vatican ^ | June 18, 2015 | Pope Francis

Posted on 06/18/2015 9:07:16 AM PDT by FourtySeven

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To: Alberta's Child
In the Economic Freedom index, the Republic of Ireland (Catholic) comes in ahead of Ulster/Northern Ireland (Protestant) and even the U.K.

Chile comes in ahead of every country in the Western Hemisphere except Canada (they are ranked #6 and #7), and that means ahead of the USA.

A thought provoking comparison.

41 posted on 06/18/2015 2:45:00 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Dude, who took my country?)
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To: BlatherNaut
Although it is true that we Christians have at times incorrectly interpreted the Scriptures, nowadays we must forcefully reject the notion that our being created in God’s image and given dominion over the earth justifies absolute domination over other creatures.

I need to hear more about this one.

42 posted on 06/18/2015 2:48:11 PM PDT by piusv
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Did you miss the two spots where he mentions that this whole thing is open for debate?


43 posted on 06/18/2015 3:45:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Thank you Salvation that’s something that struck me as well. Every time he proposes an idea he invites also discussion from everyone on the topic. This isn’t an Encyclical laying the law down or anything like that. It’s actually proposing more thought and discussion on the matter of environmental stewardship.

But, people will see what they want to see I guess.


44 posted on 06/18/2015 4:11:04 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven; sitetest

** Papal encyclicals are generally fairly long documents containing a variety of points about one or more issues. Some or all of these points are often about things that are beyond the scope of papal infallibility, dealing with things other than faith or morals, or being directed to some segment of the church. Traditionally, encyclicals are circular letters addressed only to the bishops of the Church. They tend to be discussions of some pressing matter at hand.**

http://www.rosarychurch.net/answers/qa011996b.html


46 posted on 06/18/2015 5:51:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“Pope Francis: encyclical part of Church’s social doctrine”

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2015/06/17/pope_francis_encyclical_part_of_churchs_social_doctrine/1152038

It is immoral to promote junk science as Catholic “social doctrine”.


47 posted on 06/18/2015 8:16:28 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Salvation

You can apologize all you want.

But you cannot deny Pope Che has a very far Left agenda.

He is supplying the watermelons (green on the outside, red on the inside) with precisely the ammunition and moral authority they need to move forward with their radical agenda.

I hate to say this but both the WH and the Vatican are now under the control of hard left Marxists.


48 posted on 06/19/2015 5:28:07 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: BlatherNaut

Scanning the footnotes, I noticed that there wasn’t one reference to a pre-Vatican II pope.


49 posted on 06/19/2015 6:06:33 AM PDT by piusv
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To: FourtySeven
Read it yourself, all of it; don't be a fool and let others tell you what it says.

I don't care what it says. Does he begin with the premise that "global warming" is "man-made". Yes. - that's all I need to know.

Well, aside from other issues with the "religion".

50 posted on 06/19/2015 8:24:14 AM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are you going to do about it?)
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To: FourtySeven; BlatherNaut
This paragraph has gotten a lot of attention in the Trad world....as it should:

83. The ultimate destiny of the universe is in the fullness of God, which has already been attained by the risen Christ, the measure of the maturity of all things.[53] Here we can add yet another argument for rejecting every tyrannical and irresponsible domination of human beings over other creatures. The ultimate purpose of other creatures is not to be found in us. Rather, all creatures are moving forward with us and through us towards a common point of arrival, which is God, in that transcendent fullness where the risen Christ embraces and illumines all things. Human beings, endowed with intelligence and love, and drawn by the fullness of Christ, are called to lead all creatures back to their Creator.

This is not Catholic.

51 posted on 06/19/2015 8:25:45 AM PDT by piusv
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This paragraph has gotten a lot of attention in the Trad world....as it should: 83. The ultimate destiny of the universe is in the fullness of God, which has already been attained by the risen Christ, the measure of the maturity of all things.[53] Here we can add yet another argument for rejecting every tyrannical and irresponsible domination of human beings over other creatures. The ultimate purpose of other creatures is not to be found in us. Rather, all creatures are moving forward with us and through us towards a common point of arrival, which is God, in that transcendent fullness where the risen Christ embraces and illumines all things. Human beings, endowed with intelligence and love, and drawn by the fullness of Christ, are called to lead all creatures back to their Creator. This is not Catholic.

No, it's not. Just more junk from a junk encyclical.

In addition to the hat tip to the heterodox Teilhard, footnote #53 also directs us to a "Letter to the Reverend George Coyne", written by JPII, in which he states:

"For the truth of the matter is that the Church and the scientific community will inevitably interact; their options do not include isolation. Christians will inevitably assimilate the prevailing ideas about the world, and today these are deeply shaped by science. The only question is whether they will do this critically or unreflectively, with depth and nuance or with a shallowness that debases the Gospel and leaves us ashamed before history."

How tragically ironic that Laudato si' is the embodiment of such shallowness. It's a sad thing to see a pope abuse his office in this manner.

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[53] Against this horizon we can set the contribution of Fr Teilhard de Chardin; cf. PAUL VI, Address in a Chemical and Pharmaceutical Plant (24 February 1966): Insegnamenti 4 (1966), 992-993; JOHN PAUL II, Letter to the Reverend George Coyne (1 June 1988): Insegnamenti 11/2 (1988), 1715; BENEDICT XVI, Homily for the Celebration of Vespers in Aosta (24 July 2009): Insegnamenti 5/2 (2009), 60.

52 posted on 06/19/2015 9:41:15 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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