First of all I will say that I do agree with some of the things the Catholics believe in.
But the motive here seems to be to convince people that it is the Church who has the authority and not the Bible since they are where the Bible came from.
If the scriptures did in fact come from the Catholic Church why would they not believe in scripture alone?
It is like Hank Williams said, (I was the one who wrote the song, I know how it goes)
But the Catholic Church did not write the song they just put all of the songs in to a book.
And it is likely God had to press hard on them to get it done.
If they are the successors of St Peter why do they make the whole thing about something Peter never said one word about?
Why would they go to Pauls teaching when Paul mostly showed disrespect for St Peter?
Wonder what St Peter thinks about that?
Paul is obviously where the fathers of the Church came from and he is the only apostle who said anything about the Lords supper.
Don`t get me wrong here as I know nothing but just got a lot of questions about the teachings of the Church.
“But the motive here seems to be to convince people that it is the Church who has the authority and not the Bible since they are where the Bible came from.”
That’s not my motive. God the Father is the authority, working through Jesus in the Holy Spirit.
“If the scriptures did in fact come from the Catholic Church why would they not believe in scripture alone?”
There’s a misconception that the Catholic Church does not have much to do with scripture aka the Bible. Not so. The Bible is the primary source of our faith. But one of Dr. Hensley’s points is that unless we have every Christian be his own pope, there is usually someone who is telling us what the passages in the Bible mean. There have been several posts on this thread which purport to tell me what such and such passage says. I prefer to stick with the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. If something I learn there seems out of whack then I research it further and pray about it. I don’t just make up a new interpretation and call it the Church of the Mercat.
“It is like Hank Williams said, (I was the one who wrote the song, I know how it goes)” I love that quote. My son is a singer songwriter. And you’re right - this is a song and a dance and right now I’m reading about the joy of the creation.
“But the Catholic Church did not write the song they just put all of the songs in to a book.” There were lots of chapters that got left out. Then 1500 years later, Martin Luther excluded some more chapters. I hesitate to begin a narration about the Sacraments but it is the Bible, the Magistarium, and the Sacraments that hold me in my faith.
“And it is likely God had to press hard on them to get it done.” He had to throw Paul off of his horse and drag Peter across the country to eat with the gentiles. Yup. And it doesn’t sound like John had it very easy.
“If they are the successors of St Peter why do they make the whole thing about something Peter never said one word about?” I’m not sure I understand the question. Peter said a lot. Some of it was written down, by either him or others. I guess your question is wouldn’t they have assumed a lot of dissension in the future and there fore why didn’t they write out a more specific list of rules? I have read some of the early Church fathers, the children and grandchildren so to speak of the Apostles. They said, and wrote, a lot. Until I get a chance to read it all myself I’ll trust in the Church to guide me.
“Why would they go to Pauls teaching when Paul mostly showed disrespect for St Peter?” I don’t see that in the Bible. And I don’t understand the question.
“Wonder what St Peter thinks about that?” I love St. Peter. He’s so human and impulsive and full of love. When I meditate on the passion I have to think that the betrayal by Peter was more painful to Jesus than the lashes on his back.
“Paul is obviously where the fathers of the Church came from and he is the only apostle who said anything about the Lords supper.” Well, so did the Lord. The Last Supper is, I believe, a part of all four Gospels. I think it’s also in the Acts which were written by Luke (not an apostle). And again, lots of discussion of the Eucharist among the early fathers.
“Don`t get me wrong here as I know nothing but just got a lot of questions about the teachings of the Church.”
Great questions. Thanks for posting.
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