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To: piusv
Then you need to clarify to readers that you are of a sect that denies the Post-Vatican II Papacy that does not represent the Church's teaching.

He is the Successor of St. Peter, whether or not you are happy with Vatican II. Check what the Baltimore Catechism says about the Papacy. The Catholic Church is not a democracy. You don't choose not to follow the Church's teachings and be Catholic. If you question the Holy Father's Authority, Why not set your beliefs at the era prior to Alexander VI if you deny the Papacy? I understand that V-II turned a lot of people away, but denial of the Papacy is the same kind of disobedience that led to the Reformation.

Like it or not, that is what the Church teaches.

70 posted on 06/08/2015 7:02:48 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: Grateful2God
Was St Vincent Ferrer part of a sect or not a good representative of the Catholic Church when he believed an anti-pope was a true pope?

I know very well what the Catholic Church teaches about the papacy. I have done a lot of research into Catholic teaching prior to Vatican II and, in the areas ecumenism and religious liberty, it is not the same; it is not Catholic.

Here is what St Robert Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church said of popes who are heretics:

"The fifth opinion therefore is the true one. A pope who is a manifest heretic automatically (per se) ceases to be pope and head, just as he ceases automatically to be a Christian and a member of the Church. Wherefore, he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the teaching of all the ancient Fathers who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction. "

Francis is a manifest heretic, especially with his latest non-Catholic, heretical belief called "ecumenism of blood". He even suggested it was heresy....and didn't care. According to St Bellarmine, he loses his office immediately.

I'm sorry, but I can not submit to a heretic. I was once where you were and I do get it, but I just can not do it anymore. No Catholic should submit to a heretic. I remain faithful to the Catholic Faith. Someday God will intervene and fix this mess.

71 posted on 06/08/2015 1:57:15 PM PDT by piusv
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To: Grateful2God

And you have still not accepted the fact that the JPII catechism contradicts pre-Vatican II teaching regarding unbaptized infants. How did the Church teach for hundreds of years that they can not go to Heaven and then all of a sudden 1960 years later decide to teach the opposite....that they can?


72 posted on 06/08/2015 2:02:30 PM PDT by piusv
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