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To: StormPrepper; Elsie; All
You cite D&C 132:16, yet ignore verse 4:

4 For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting covenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory.

So let's break down the 3 key phrases or words of D&C 132:4, shall we?

1. New and Everlasting Covenant

As with the quote from official Lds church doctrine says, "the new and everlasting covenant" is celestial marriage (though Lds general authorities once upon a time defined it in the 19th century as either outright polygamy or at least included polygamy).

The official Lds church curricula – Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual – defines "celestial marriage" this way: "The 'new and everlasting covenant' (D&C 132:4) is the covenant of celestial marriage, as President Spencer W. Kimball plainly stated: 'Though relatively few people in this world understand it, the new and everlasting covenant is the marriage in the holy temple by the properly constituted leaders who hold the genuine authoritative keys...' ('Temples and Eternal Marriage,' Ensign, Aug. 1974, p. 5) One can sense the importance of accepting this covenant by the emphasis the Lord puts in the following phrases: ...'If ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned' (vs. 4). 'No one can reject this covenant and...enter into my glory' (vs. 4)..."
(Doctrine & Covenants Student Manual, published by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, p. 327, 1981, 2000)

2. Which leads to what the above official curricula emphasizes...the word 'damned'

"Damned" doesn't mean "celestial" kingdom, does it StormPrepper?

3. 'No one can reject this covenant and...enter into my glory'

So are you saying, StormPrepper, that "damned" men can live in the celestial kingdom without entering into Heavenly Father's "glory?" Really?
60 posted on 06/02/2015 12:25:06 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; All
So let's break down the 3 key phrases or words of D&C 132:4, shall we?

I'm not going to debate interpretation with you. It's not an interpretation issue for me. I know the doctrine. You obviously don't. I corrected you. You're refusing to accept that you were wrong.

But for all those other people reading this I will break it down for you.

"4 For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting covenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory."

With in the Celestial Kingdom of God there are also three(3) degrees of Glory. Not to be confused with the Terrestrial and Telestial glories. See 1 Cor 15:40.

The new an everlasting covenant is eternal marriage.

If you are not Married you can not enter into the highest glory of God. But can still live in His presence in a saved state. But you will not receive all of His glory.

"Damned" doesn't mean "celestial" kingdom, does it StormPrepper?

See, you don't understand. Yes it does. This isn't Hollywood. The true meaning of "damned" doesn't mean getting turned into a zombie or sent to hell.

"Damned" means stopped. Your eternal progression is stopped.

Those who are not married are damned, but personally live with God as Angels of God for eternity. Damned in this sense means they do not progress further.

So are you saying, StormPrepper, that "damned" men can live in the celestial kingdom without entering into Heavenly Father's "glory?" Really?

No. Glory in this sense means to become like [G]od. They are [g]ods, meaning they receive all that Heavenly Father has promised. That's what He means by entering into God's Glory. In other words, married people are saved and are exalted.

They can be damned, meaning stopped eternally, but live with God as an Angel and are not exalted.

Therefore, your statement of "no hubby, no living with Heavenly Father" is dead wrong.

Again:
D&C 132
17 For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are angels of God forever and ever.


I don't care what you choose to believe. But you were quoting LDS doctrine and making claims of what we believe and you were wrong.

Are you going to correct yourself or not?
64 posted on 06/02/2015 1:31:26 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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