Who Really Speaks For God?

The Highway ^ | May 24,2015 | John H. Armstrong

[terycarl]

(2Tim4:1-5) I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, always be sober- minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

An obvious warning that people would come along and preach against the Catholic church and the warning was correct....prople did preach against Christ's church....and they were, and are....wrong.

[Old Yeller]

Sometimes when a person posts things like this, it is not because he/she hates Catholicism....sometimes people are trying to justify, in their own minds, the very poor decision that they made to leave the church......if I can convince someone that Catholicism is wrong, then I'll be justified in my decision to try to prove that an institution 2,015 years old, founded by Christ, is in error...

And sometimes when someone sees someone else drowning they'll throw them a life preserver because they care about their fellow man. But the person drowning should grab it and hold on.

[RnMomof7]

..>>>>>>>Ask the Duggars. To what cult do they belong again?<<<<<<<

http://bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/PriestDBbylastName-V.html

[JPII Be Not Afraid]

Because" God is not a God of confusion"(1 Corinthians 14:33)... Romanism and the Bible do not agree ...hands down the bible is the final authority as the infallible word of God.. He did not leave us with mysteries to solve or newly minted "prophecies " to follow.. He told us everything we need to know about Him, and how to be saved in His word.

1 Corinthians 14:26-40
Rules of Order.
26 So what is to be done, brothers? When you assemble, one has a psalm, another an instruction, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Everything should be done for building up.
27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, let it be two or at most three, and each in turn, and one should interpret.
28 But if there is no interpreter, the person should keep silent in the church and speak to himself and to God.
29 Two or three prophets should speak, and the others discern. 30But if a revelation is given to another person sitting there, the first one should be silent.
31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged.
32 Indeed, the spirits of prophets are under the prophets’ control,
33 since he is not the God of disorder but of peace. As in all the churches of the holy ones,
34 women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says.
35 But if they want to learn anything, they should ask their husbands at home. For it is improper for a woman to speak in the church.
36 Did the word of God go forth from you? Or has it come to you alone?
37 If anyone thinks that he is a prophet or a spiritual person, he should recognize that what I am writing to you is a commandment of the Lord.
38 If anyone does not acknowledge this, he is not acknowledged.
39 So, (my) brothers, strive eagerly to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues,
40 but everything must be done properly and in order.

This is talking about prophecy and says do not forbid it. I do not know how this is supposed to prove the Catholic church is the wrong one? What do you have to say about the literal interpretation of verses 34 & 35.

[JPII Be Not Afraid]

2 Tim, again. Ch 2:15: Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

2 Tim: Warning against Useless Disputes.
14 Remind people of these things and charge them before God* to stop disputing about words. This serves no useful purpose since it harms those who listen.
15 Be eager to present yourself as acceptable to God, a workman who causes no disgrace, imparting the word of truth without deviation.
16 Avoid profane, idle talk, for such people will become more and more godless,
17 and their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus,
18 who have deviated from the truth by saying that [the] resurrection has already taken place and are upsetting the faith of some.
19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands, bearing this inscription, “The Lord knows those who are his”; and, “Let everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord avoid evil.”
20 In a large household there are vessels not only of gold and silver but also of wood and clay, some for lofty and others for humble use.
21 If anyone cleanses himself of these things, he will be a vessel for lofty use, dedicated, beneficial to the master of the house, ready for every good work.
22 So turn from youthful desires and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord* with purity of heart.
23 Avoid foolish and ignorant debates, for you know that they breed quarrels.
24 A slave of the Lord should not quarrel, but should be gentle with everyone, able to teach, tolerant,
25 correcting opponents with kindness. It may be that God will grant them repentance that leads to knowledge of the truth,
26 and that they may return to their senses out of the devil’s snare,w where they are entrapped by him, for his will.

Talking about useless arguments. Humm, something to think about.

Acts 17:11
These Jews were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with all willingness and examined the scriptures daily to determine whether these things were so.
Talking about OT scriptures

Sorry but these scriptures do not prove your case that you are correct and the Catholic church is wrong.

2 Tim - 3
Paul’s Example and Teaching.
10 You have followed my teaching, way of life, purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance, 11persecutions, and sufferings, such as happened to me in Antioch, Iconium, and Lystra, persecutions that I endured. Yet from all these things the Lord delivered me.
12 In fact, all who want to live religiously in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.
13 But wicked people and charlatans will go from bad to worse, deceivers and deceived.
14 But you, remain faithful to what you have learned and believed, because you know from whom you learned it,
15 and that from infancy you have known [the] sacred scriptures, which are capable of giving you wisdom for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
17 so that one who belongs to God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

Verse 16 & 17 refer to OT scriptures. What about Timothy's "teachings." Again this does nothing to prove you are correct and the Catholic church is not. If anything it proves there are teachings and ways of life following Christ that were taught not written.

[terycarl]

Seems to me that I heard something about Catholic priests and boys......

Same old, same old....we are ALL aware that the incidence of molestation was MUCH higher among protestant ministers than Catholic priests....but they aren't sitting on piles of Archdiocesan funds.....incidence also greater among school teachers, scout leaders.....but some people just can't help but to bash Catholics....how very sad.

[RnMomof7]

And sometimes when someone sees someone else drowning they'll throw them a life preserver because they care about their fellow man. But the person drowning should grab it and hold on.

Thats a fact.. it breaks my heart when people I care about trust Rome instead of Christ.. I know their end.. and it is eternal

[RnMomof7]

Amen

[papertyger]

And sometimes when someone sees someone else drowning they'll throw them a life preserver because they care about their fellow man.

Because life preservers always come with gratuitous insults, are aimed right at the drowning person's only handhold, and scrupulously adhere to the throwers "native language" as opposed to the person they are ostensibly "saving."

The Protestant penchant for self-congratulation knows no bounds.

[goodwithagun]

Once again, bless your hearts! I'm out as my realtor is suddenly upset that we are two weeks out from our visit and we haven't narrowed down our choices. Considering how he started out kind of ignoring our requests, I'd like to be a bit better than him. Vegas, baby!

[papertyger]

Thats a fact.. it breaks my heart when people I care about trust Rome instead of Christ.. I know their end.. and it is eternal

Protestants only know what their televangelists tell them.

[terycarl]

And sometimes when someone sees someone else drowning they'll throw them a life preserver because they care about their fellow man. But the person drowning should grab it and hold on.

Sometimes....however, when you break away from the navy seals and start your own idea of a rescue group.....it probably isn't necessary to stock up on life preservers to save the seals.

[smvoice]

“Archdiocesan funds”??? I thought we were told that the RCC was practically poor. It was just that Vatican gift shop that was responsible for her income...

[Salvation]

http://www.ewtn.com/ewtn/bible/search_bible.asp

Genesis 1 and 2

[Elsie]

Who Really Speaks For God?

ME!

I am the Living Prophet®

(I ain't bragging; it's TRUE! Read #1..

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In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.

1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)     http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng

[Salvation]

All anyone needs to do is open their Bible:

Genesis 1:

3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
6 And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters."
9 And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so.

11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the earth." And it was so.
14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years,

20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens."
24 And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds." And it was so.
26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
29 And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food.

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Genesis 2:

16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every tree of the garden;
18 Then the LORD God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him."

[kinsman redeemer]

An obvious warning that people would come along and preach against the Catholic church

True enough. "Catholic" means "universal" - it is Christ's Church: not yours.

[Elsie]

The written Sacred scripture is not enough. We have seen what happens when the papacy is ignored by Protestants.

Oh??

It sure USED to be!

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Acts 18:28 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
For with much vigour he convinced the Jews openly, shewing by the scriptures, that Jesus is the Christ.

[JPII Be Not Afraid]

You don’t know where God’s word is?

I don't think Catholics do Sal... rarely see it printed or linked ...

Every day Salvation has a thread that begins with the daily bible readings that are used through out the world that day in every Catholic church during that days mass. She also includes commentary on those verses from a few different sources. That is at least 365 days for the last, lets say 5 or 6 years. That's 2190 times right here on FreeRepublic. If you look at most Catholic websites they also include the daily readings with commentary. We go through the bible just about completely every 3 years. Daily a Old Testament reading, a psalm, a New Testament reading and a Gospel reading is read. These are proclaimed daily for all to read and hear. This is one way we are universal and catholic.I am not sure where you are looking but for us Catholics we see it everywhere.

[Elsie]

The written Sacred scripture is not enough. We have seen what happens when the papacy is ignored by Protestants.

The world has SEEN what happens when the papacy is ignored by POPES; too!