[Mrs. Don-o]

"The Catholic Church has always been open to being split as are the protestant denominations, it calls to question for me what foundation are they really built upon."

I 'd liketo comment on this, but I'm not sure quite what yuou mean by it. So I'd liket o give you a chance to explain.

What do you mean by "has always been open to being split"? Do you mean it has always been possible to split from the Catholic Church, i.e. there is no way to stop people walking out, they will walk out if they want to"?

Or do you mean "The Catholic Church's response to internal splits is just to go on tolerating them, i.e. you can deviate on any point of faith and morals you want to, and still be a member of a parish, receive the Sacraments and call youself a Catholic"?

Or do you mean something else?

Thanks for any clarification.

[PoloSec]

My comment was addressing two issues; the first was the word SPLIT it was a misuse (I should have clarified from scripture wherein split is a man made annotation not used in the scripture where it is correctly referred to as Divisions). The second issue was foundation and what foundation are all the varied religions and their numerous denominations really built upon.

What has God warned us about Divisions: (just a few there are more)

 

 

 

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.   For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you;  For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

What has God told us about our Foundation:

According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.  Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

The Violation and its accompanying correction and instruction in righteousness...

Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.  Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing. (for clarity read again only the words in bold)

In like manner as our constitution, man has perverted and corrupted the Word of God by dividing it into religions, using words that do not appear in scripture such as catholic, protestant, et al and thus dividing those who believe the gospel into untold denominations, all claiming Christ as their foundation yet he is not divided, fractured, crumbling,  you would not know it by looking at all the man made religions most of which are as much the same as they are different, God says we are the Church the Body of Christ, He gave no other distinction, his Word is simple as is Christ; and man made religious connotations would have it much more complex, all one need do to see is open any religious thread on FR and hear all the non-sense and yes there is some truth in all of them but there is not all truth in any.

No doubt you or someone else reading this will find reason to dispute not because the above scripture is wrong but because the doctrine of men have trained us to be in dispute, to be divided, to not recognize scripture but to acknowledge only that religion in which we have been trained, there is only one foundation (the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ) men will say yes we believe that then in word and action deny the same, you can ignore the words I wrote go back once again to the scripture  posted  italicized that is where the truth is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The gospel one must believe to be saved is (how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures) now most main line religions and there denominations will declare yes we believe that, then add BUT there is more to salvation than that, thereby dividing the gospel and perverting the gospel from the simplicity that is in Christ:   (But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.) this is what religions et al do and that same subtilty will find those corrupted rushing to the defense of their religion rather than standing on our only foundation the gospel; how that Christ died for our sins... no ifs, ands or buts about it.

So the bottom line in my comment; there is no Catholic, Protestant or any other church that God recognizes other than the Church the Body of Christ, (many claim by way of label to be that very church but they lie) man can divide Gods Word and construct such religions but they are merely the devises of men that achieve complexity upon complexity to where only a few can conveniently claim to understand it and they are the ones they tell you who can explain it all in such complexity to keep believers beholden to them.  I suspect you are fuming about now if you weren't already but you have the option to ignore it all, that is what religion teaches as a recourse; knowing of course men are so invested in their particular religious nomenclature they cannot do so, it is all about maintaining divisions and obscuring the foundation, nothing new it has been going since by one man sin entered into the world.

Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity!