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To: BlatherNaut; Mrs. Don-o

Don’t forget Francis’ suggestion that the Blessed Mother felt betrayed by God.

Pope Francis, “She was silent, but in her heart, how many things told the Lord! ‘You, that day, this and the other that we read, you had told me that he would be great, you had told me that you would have given him the throne of David, his forefather, that he would have reigned forever and now I see him there!’ Our Lady was human! And perhaps she even had the desire to say: ‘Lies! I was deceived!’”


43 posted on 05/23/2015 7:09:37 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; BlatherNaut

Why would Francis ignore this:

[34] And Simeon blessed them, and said to Mary his mother: Behold this child is set for the fall, and for the resurrection of many in Israel, and for a sign which shall be contradicted; [35] And thy own soul a sword shall pierce, that, out of many hearts, thoughts may be revealed. Luke: Chapter 2

???

Does he think the Blessed Mother ignored Simeon’s prophecy?


45 posted on 05/23/2015 7:55:34 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; BlatherNaut; don-o
To have a "feeling" or be "tempted" --- amounts to just that: a feeling, a temptation. There is no record that Mary ever cooperated with such temptations. The Holy Father does not make this accusation. He says she could be assailed by temptations, as even Christ could be tempted.

Didn't Our Lord suffer fear, dread, anguish in the Garden? Or, no, did He just go frolicking into the Crucifixion...?

And didn't He say, "My God, my God, why have You forsaken me...?"

Those are the first words of a Messianic hymn, Psalm 22, unusual for the intensity of its feeling of having been abandoned by God Who is "far from my cry for help." The Psalm ends in a vision of future triumph; yet neither the Psalmist nor Jesus shies back from expressing the very depth of the temptation to despair, an abject sense of being deserted by God in one's hour of need.

If Mary felt these emotions, she did so right smack dab in the middle of the prophetic and messianic traditions of the Faith.

If you think the Pope was imputing sin to her, you are very much mistaken.

51 posted on 05/24/2015 6:59:37 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The Catholic Church is for saints and sinners only. For respectable people, the Anglicans will do.")
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To: ebb tide

Also, with feelings come thoughts. Francis suggests that the Immaculate Conception entertained sinful thoughts.


52 posted on 05/24/2015 7:24:48 AM PDT by piusv
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