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To: MHGinTN
Who is due the glory for His Grace? Why of course ONLY GOD is due the glory for His astonishing Grace. If man has no choice, why would God repeat this wooing, in deed why even do it a first time?

Makes sense to me...

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Why would that grace be available to all men if it is just meant for some...

1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

That one's kinda hard to dispute...

2Ti 4:17 Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.

No need for all the Gentiles to hear the preaching...

As I see it as far as this predestination thing is concerned; there are always exception to the rule but I believe it was the church that was predestinated, not the individual...

883 posted on 06/04/2015 2:05:24 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool; MHGinTN
>>If man has no choice, why would God repeat this wooing, in deed why even do it a first time?<<

Isaiah 55:8 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD.

885 posted on 06/04/2015 2:18:39 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Iscool

Thank you for the response. There is a balance in reason between the complete preordination of all things (such that there is no sovereignty of the individual), and the larger view of “God’s Gift is so Great BECAUSE it is by His Promise and His calling, and then the individual’s choice to accept His Life or not.” But I am no longer ‘catching any ears’, so I will leave it to others on this open forum.


898 posted on 06/04/2015 6:19:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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