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To: Springfield Reformer

Hey!

If you’re going to start by claiming I added something, I’m stoping right there.

The author included the phrase “and future sins”, for which I phrased “excuses all future behavior,”.

Now, if you’d like to explain to us how my rephrasing is a mischaracterization, we’re all ears.


123 posted on 05/22/2015 3:32:12 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: G Larry
OK, let's try to look at this. You are equating:

“and future sins”, for which I phrased “excuses all future behavior,”.

I don't see those as being equal. Not in the least. That Jesus died for future sins is not the same as have a an "excuse" for future behavior. My entire post was dedicated to showing we do NOT view Christ's death as an excuse for misbehavior, and I cited Paul in defense of the fact that this is a very old misconception.

So, yes, to me, that looks like you added something that goes beyond the intent of the OP. And as we are all the time having to deal with that faulty Catholic interpretation that we engage in easy believism, that is the context for my response.

But I am genuinely open to you setting me straight. Your comment, if it is not "additive," should not have used the charged word "excuse." But perhaps you only meant "forgiven?" Again, I am open to trying to understand you the best I can.

Peace,

SR

126 posted on 05/22/2015 3:44:39 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: G Larry
Is there some sin you will commit in the future (starting now until you die) that could cancel your having been born again? ... If you're an honest doubter of OSAS you are now asking (mentally, we hope) what if I believe the born again act is something that comes after all that I can do to remain worthy of such Grace? And of course, to reach worthiness means it is no longer of grace but of something earned, and that is BLASPHEMY against the Promise of God!

Ask yourself, could a murderer get born again after committing murder? If your answer is yes, then you are part the way to comprehending why the Promise of God includes all your sin, past, present, and future. If a man is born again from above before he dies, then to believe there is some sin he could commit after being born again that would cancel his status of born again from above is to assert there is some sin which is stronger than God's Promise. There is no such sin, regardless of how hard satan drives that into your head. Once He 'borns you' ain't nothing nowhere nohow that can snatch you from His Grace AND Power.

The very act of admitting you are a sinner in need of His Grace makes you just what God is searching the whole Earth for, for His Spirit goes to and fro throughout the whole Earth seeking any boy, girl, man or woman who will let God be God IN THEM ... 'For it is God Who is in you, both to will and to do of His good pleasure.' 'You are bought with a price'. and if there some sin that the purchase won't cover --past present or future-- then the purchaser is in default, and God doesn't make mistakes. I am prime evidence of His love and long suffering with His creation.

138 posted on 05/22/2015 5:45:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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