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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
“If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector.” —Jesus

Cherry picked out of context again.

Which again leaves a wonderful opportunity for a correction of that error to be posted.

Which is NOT a command of Jesus to believers.

Posting it as if it were will lead someone to the wrong interpretation of that passage.

What Jesus said when He spoke those words, is: Matthew 18:15-18 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.

For all the criticism non-Catholics receive about cherry picking verses and taking them out of context, there is simply no way anyone is going to one up this abuse of Scripture.

Taking a fragment of a sentence and posting it as a command of Jesus' is the ultimate in cherry picking verses to support a doctrine.

It will lead to deception.

This passage is only about settling personal disputes between individual believers, and the taking it to the church part is the LAST step in in process.

What it most certainly is NOT is a blanket command by Jesus to listen to, or submit to, the Catholic church.

196 posted on 05/18/2015 7:00:23 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

True.


198 posted on 05/18/2015 7:46:03 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: metmom
Cherry picked out of context again.

And he is, apparently, unrepentant in the usage thereof!

211 posted on 05/19/2015 5:34:07 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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