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Catholic women priests fight for inclusion -- for all
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/05/catholic_women_priests_fight_for_inclusion_--_for.html ^ | May 03, 2015 | Mark Di Ionno

Posted on 05/05/2015 7:01:02 AM PDT by Gamecock

Inclusivity is a word the Roman Catholic Women Priests (RCWP) organization is built upon. The movement began in Germany in 2002 with seven women who were ordained on the Danube River by an Argentine Catholic bishop who cut his ties to Rome and began a church he believed would be more progressive.

Those women chose ex-communication by Rome, which, simply put, is like leaving a club you were never allowed to join.

So they started their own branch of the club and there are now 208 women priests worldwide, following Saturday's ordination.

"We are obedient to the Holy Spirit and disobedient to unjust laws," said Kathleen Gibbons Schuck, 59, a Summit native now living in Blue Bell, Pa.

But the differences between Rome-scripted ordination and the RCWP's ceremony were apparent. One was the gender-neutral liturgy. The word Lord was absent. God was not exclusively called Father, but Creator God, Creator Spirit and Life-Giving Mother, Gentle Father. Christ's disciples, a heavily male-oriented word, were described as friends. The prayer over the Eucharist is said by the whole church, meaning the congregation shares the power to bring the body and blood of Christ into their midst.

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To: NRx; Gamecock; HossB86; Wyrd bið ful aræd
You are reinforcing my point. I am NOT Catholic (Roman anyways) and I am waaaay more Catholic than these overgrown children playing dress up.

Ugh - I have no interest in reinforcing your navel.


21 posted on 05/05/2015 7:35:17 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

LOL good call.


22 posted on 05/05/2015 7:38:27 AM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Except that they are not inside the Roman Church. They have explicitly placed themselves outside the Church.
23 posted on 05/05/2015 7:44:41 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Cruz or lose!)
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To: Poison Pill

That progressive tradition is obviously still alive, as the church welcomed not only the women priests but a group of married male Catholic priests who also practice outside the reach of Rome.

24 posted on 05/05/2015 7:51:43 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“Johnson ordained the seven women at Morristown’s (Episcopalian) Church of the Redeemer.”

How dare the Catholic Church allow these excommunicated women to be ordained in an Episcopalian church. It just shows how terrible the Catholic Church is and that Catholics are 1000s of denominations like the different sorts of Baptists, Lutherans and Presbyterians or something. Obviously.

Freegards


25 posted on 05/05/2015 7:53:51 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Gamecock

Well, they’re not Roman Catholic. RC Priests don’t generally wear the stole over top the chasuble, it’s worn underneath. It’s rare to see one worn over top the chasuble.

The stole over one shoulder is a Deacon, so those folks are not Priests, either.


26 posted on 05/05/2015 8:00:09 AM PDT by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Ah, these many beliefs inside the Roman demonination!

I assume "demonination" is a typo.

Attempting ordination of a female results in excommunication, and is objectively schismatic and heretical. These women are every bit as much "inside the Roman denomination" as you are, and no more.

27 posted on 05/05/2015 8:00:14 AM PDT by Campion
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To: DungeonMaster
The Catholic Church: 500,000 denominations all under one roof.

That "roof" certainly does not cover these ladies, so about whom are you speaking?

28 posted on 05/05/2015 8:01:30 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion

“I assume “demonination” is a typo.

Demonic Autocorrect!!!


29 posted on 05/05/2015 8:24:09 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Campion
That "roof" certainly does not cover these ladies, so about whom are you speaking?

I worked with a Catholic lady who was really "into" Mary. She asked her "Priest" if God is female. He said "You can think of God as female if you want".

Catholics that I know are not even aware of most Catholic doctrines and upon hearing them will say "I don't believe that one" or "I'm not sure about that one".

30 posted on 05/05/2015 8:24:57 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God is very intollerant, why shouldn't I be?)
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To: Gamecock

“Catholic women priests fight for inclusion — for all”

Their premise is either extremely ignorant of God’s design and intent and symbolisms of the post of priesthood or knowing them they (or some of them) are intentionally trying to destroy it out of hatred for God (malice).

Let us illustrate: If inclusion is so necessary for all, then why not insist that the negative (-) and positive (+) terminals of a car battery both be permitted at the same time to be connected to the same positive (+) post on the car’s starter?

What will happen? (The wires will melt and a fire will start in the engine compartment.)

And that would be part of “inclusion for all” with regard to electrical physics.

That is to say, that is why “inclusiveness” is not one of the ten commandments, nor is it the first and foremost commandment, contrary to what “women priests” would like us to believe.


31 posted on 05/05/2015 8:31:27 AM PDT by Repent and Believe (...prelates must be questioned, even publicly, by their subjects. - Saint Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NRx

“Oh pleeeaaase! I have navel lint that is more Catholic than these heretics.”

;)


32 posted on 05/05/2015 8:38:26 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: NRx; Alex Murphy

Well, I thought it was funny.


33 posted on 05/05/2015 8:57:57 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Gamecock

There are no Catholic women priests. None. Not anywhere. There are some deluded women who may have at one time had some connection to the Catholic Church but they are not Catholic now.


34 posted on 05/05/2015 9:16:56 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: Gamecock

I’ve been thinking lately....
When the Levites were given the priestly calling in the Old Testament, why didn’t all the other tribes complain? Why didn’t they say, “Hey, it’s not fair!! Why them and not us?! Other people can say prayers and do rituals! The religion is obviously ‘tribe-ist’ and needs to change with the times! We can appoint our own priests if they feel the calling!”

The other tribes had the good sense not to second-guess God and His preferences in the matter of who would be His priests. Would that more people today had that humility and reverence for God’s authority.

I don’t mind that women want to be priests. I don’t mind if women eventually end up being priests, if that’s where the Holy Spirit guides the Church. But I do mind arrogant whiners and people who think they know more than God does about who He wants to call for what job.


35 posted on 05/05/2015 10:09:02 AM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Gamecock

In a separate ceremony, the women also all inducted themselves into the office of President of the United States with one insisting she actually was Georgette Washington, the reincarnation of the feminine side of our first president.


36 posted on 05/05/2015 10:45:03 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Gamecock

There is no such thing.


37 posted on 05/05/2015 10:48:39 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Don’t tell me! I post. You decide.


38 posted on 05/05/2015 11:03:24 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

YOPIOCCC

Each man his own pope.

1.2 billion strong......


39 posted on 05/05/2015 11:43:02 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: NRx; Gamecock

When the Catholic church ex-communicates them, then you are free to disown them.

Until then, it’s not your decision to make.


40 posted on 05/05/2015 11:43:55 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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