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To: ebb tide

Do you deny Mary was the mother of Jesus Christ? Yes. She was the mother of Jesus the man.

Do you deny Jesus Christ is God? No.

Yes or no answers will suffice. I’ll give more to educate you. Jesus was fully man and fully God. Mary was the mother of the fully man part. To say she is the Mother of God is blasphemous because God has no mother and no beginning nor end. More details will be given in Heaven (hope you make it).


52 posted on 05/01/2015 6:27:02 PM PDT by BipolarBob (My God can kick your Allahs arse.)
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To: BipolarBob
Mary was the mother of the fully man part.

You can't split Christ into two persons. That's nonsense.

57 posted on 05/01/2015 6:41:30 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: BipolarBob
Jesus was fully man and fully God. Mary was the mother of the fully man part.

Agreed. Mary is the Theotokos because of what it says about Jesus. That Jesus was fully God from conception. If you read the creed that include Theotokos, it says that Mary was the Theotokos, with regard to the manhood.

Theotokos is properly translated as "God-Bearer". As in Mary bore the manhood of God.

Mother of God is totally inappropriate for two reasons. First, because it inverts the order and puts the bearer before the God. Second, because people use the term "Mother of God" as an honorific for Mary, perverting the purpose of the title. Theotokos is not to honor Mary, but to proclaim the truth about Jesus.

72 posted on 05/01/2015 7:14:02 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: BipolarBob; ebb tide

Thanks, Bob...John, in the opening of the gospel he wrote, supports your reply to ebb. I quote it here from a translation that ebb can’t claim is ‘prot’ rubbish...

“In the beginning was the Word: and the Word was with God: and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made. In him was life: and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. This man came for a witness, to give testimony of the light, that all men might believe through him. He was not the light, but was to give testimony of the light. That was the true light, which enlighteneth every man that cometh into this world. He was in the world: and the world was made by him: and the world knew him not. He came unto his own: and his own received him not. But as many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name. Who are born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us (and we saw his glory, the glory as it were of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth.”
(Joh 1:1-14) – Douay Reims

Jesus is the Word. The Light of the World. In Him was Life, the Light of men. The World was made by Him. As many as received Him, He gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in His name. The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.

Jesus...speak the name, say it often...

And as for the Book of Revelation (Apocalypse), It is the revelation of Jesus Christ, not the revelation of Peter.


118 posted on 05/01/2015 8:32:09 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: BipolarBob; ebb tide

Mary was the mother of the fully man part.


How do you separate Jesus from God?

When Mary found her Son in the temple, and Jesus said to His mother that He must be about His Father’s business, wasn’t Jesus speaking to His mother as God?


121 posted on 05/01/2015 8:40:27 PM PDT by rwa265
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