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To: WhiskeyX

After having read an article on these people, the problem is genetic...Constrained to one family over a few generations...

One interesting thing is these children were born with ‘not so identifiable’ female genitalia either...So it is not to say these children were born of the opposite gender...If they were born with those parts that were different than both boys and girls, and they all gained the appearance of boys at puberty, seems they should have been raised as boys and not girls...

As far as the DNA is concerned, it sounds like this is a pretty primitive (and old) tribe where testing was possibly not up to par...

I don’t see how this apparent biological exception to the normal rule could be considered normal for mankind...


171 posted on 04/27/2015 2:09:05 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

You seem to be at pains to misrepresent and thereby explain away the reality of what has happened to the people affected by the very unusual genetic change to their sexuality. For example:

“After having read an article on these people, the problem is genetic...Constrained to one family over a few generations...”

You say, “the problem is genetic...Constrained to one family over a few generations....” That statement is false, so it misrepresents the situation. See for example:

“The disorder has been found in blacks, whites, American Indians, and Latin Americans, as well as in families from Malta, Jordan, and Pakistan. Imperato-McGinley et al. (1991) described a cluster of male pseudohermaphrodites in the Simbari Anga linguistic group in the Eastern Highlands of Papua New Guinea. Their studies revealed a phenotypic and biochemical profile similar to that in patients studied in the Dominican Republic, except for a greater abundance of facial and body hair. DHT is responsible for masculinization of the external genitalia of the fetus and for masculinization at puberty. The virilization at puberty in PPSH may be related to the facts that the reductase is not completely absent and that low levels of DHT are found in plasma”.

http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/human_protandry_girls_who_turn_into_boys_revisited/

“One interesting thing is these children were born with ‘not so identifiable’ female genitalia either...So it is not to say these children were born of the opposite gender...If they were born with those parts that were different than both boys and girls, and they all gained the appearance of boys at puberty, seems they should have been raised as boys and not girls...”

All Human beings begin life as a female fetus having the beginnings of female and male sexual organs present in the fetus. While still in the womb, one of the two sexes normally becomes predominant as determined by the sex chromosomes, autosomal factors, hormones, and other factors during gestation. When the conditions for one sex to become predominant occurs the other sexual organs are absorbed and eliminated. When something alters the normal process, the normal process of eliminating the excess sexual organs can result in both sets of sexual organs becoming present at birth or at some point in time after birth.

The extent to which the female genitalia in the affected children of the Batista family varies, and they were not sufficiently described in the sources to clearly indicate their development in the various individuals. Other cases in the Dominican Republic, Papua New Guuinea, and elsewhere around the world vary considerably.

“As far as the DNA is concerned, it sounds like this is a pretty primitive (and old) tribe where testing was possibly not up to par...”

They have been studied extensively, so that is simply not so. Furthermore, DNA and the sex chromosomes do not always fully determine the sexual characteristics of a child. Other events in the womb can alter the sexual characteristics of a child.

“I don’t see how this apparent biological exception to the normal rule could be considered normal for mankind...”

No one ever said these exceptions are normal for all Humans. That is simply a strawman argument. The exceptions do demonstrate Human sexual characteristics are naturally variable and present on average in nearly every substantial community of Human beings. This fact of life then becomes a question under debate among members of the Christian churches with regard to how the exceptional persons and the fellow members of their churches should relate themselves to Christian doctrines.


185 posted on 04/27/2015 8:28:06 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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