Posted on 04/25/2015 10:33:08 AM PDT by RnMomof7
I didn’t. BTW, say anything about Luther in particular.
Freepers persist in posting these dumb attack-threads, and they keep on winning the same dumb prizes
I agree. It’s just yawner with these clowns that sit around a circle jerk and see who can go to heaven and who has it “wrong”. I just pity them. I just describe it as an old crazy man that is screaming at the ocean to make the waves stop and pay attention to who he is....”all the lonely people, where do they all come from?”
By Catholic reasoning, then if they are having sex knowing that no procreation is going to happen that is contributing to the moral collapse of our culture and society.
Being Presbyterian doesn't save you; and it's not taught that way as it is in the Catholic Church (no salvation outside of the Catholic Church) --
"An unsaved member of the apostate branch of Presbyterianism" might be the better title.
Hoss
Couldn’t have happened to anyone more deserving!
What should the Church have done... Pinned a medal on him???
He knew EXACTLY what he was doing
AMDG
Huh? Feeling okay? You're not making any sense today.
Hoss
We don’t follow Luther.
It’s y’all Catholics who demand that we do even when we tell you repeatedly that we don’t.
Y’all are the ones who insist that we don’t reject him.
Thank you for posting that scripture reference.
There is little in the way of doctrine left in many protestant sects.
AMDG
I thought you've been lurking. Had you been paying attention you would know I don't venerate Luther, Calvin or any other man. Luther was a Catholic and had many erroneous and vile traits which he took along from Catholicism. The corrections being made had started years, and years before his time. Zwingli, Hus, Waldo, and Wycliffe just to name a few. Gutenberg and his printing press put fear into the hearts of the Catholic hierarchy in that it would become much easier for the masses to obtain copies of scripture and learn of the errors of Catholic teaching. God was moving and the Catholic Church couldn't stop Him. It was God who was working to "increase knowledge" and take away the monopoly of the Catholic Church and it's error's. No one man or even group of men get the glory for that.
Well, since it pinged you enough to reply, maybe The Lord will use these discussions to reach your heart. All the matters of this world mean nothing; only that you know Jesus Christ as Lord -- not Mary, not priests, not "beautiful liturgy" that practices the re-sacrifice of Christ and makes it cannibalistic --
And I will certainly be more than happy to pray not only for you, but for your son to find a job and for an easing of your arthritic hip and the continuing remission of your cancer, Lord willing. And better I pray to The Lord directly for you than for others to pray useless prayers to "saints" and Mary who cannot hear you.
I do pray and trust that The Lord will do these things for you.
Hoss
They do work at obfuscation and diversion don’t they.
Isn’t it funny how the world is divided into either Rome or Luther by some people? ...sigh...
The Reformation is indeed over and the Catholics are coming out on top with people coming back to the Church.
The article is misappropriated in its title.
Should be Catholics 1 (or more), Protestants 0 (or - numbers.)
I’m criticizing the author and the title, not any individuals.
You are truly welcome.
There is little in the way of doctrine left in many protestant sects.
Doesn't matter whose doctrine at all (including yours or mine), unless it is the doctrine of Yeshua... which is the doctrine of His Father.
That's "tell it to the assembly (ekklesia) of the local group he has been meeting with. It is they who would decide not to allow that person to meet with them any longer. The Catholic Church attempts to usurp that right from the local assembly. Thus we have paedophile priests who the Catholic Church forces onto local assemblies of Catholics and Catholics who have been conditioned to submit their "will and intellect" rather than assert their God given duty.
Look at Luther's actions during the Peasant's Revolt of 1525./I>
You need to check your sources..Catholic anti protestant/anti Lutheran sources are not real reliable.. often 3rd or 4th party sources..
The quote itself has some history. These texts from the 1800's demonstrate it's been circulating for quite a number of years. Luther, Exposing the Myth cites "Tischreden; Erlanger Ed., Vol. 59. p. 284." They took the quote from this secondary source. It's possible the quote ultimately came from this popular secondary source.
The Tischreden is Luther's Table Talk, a collection of second hand comments written down by Luther's friends, published after his death. There is no such thing as the Erlanger edition of Luther's works, it's Erlangen, referring to the Erlangen Edition of Luther's works. This out of print German / Latin edition of Luther's works was published in the 1800's (some of these volumes are on-line, but the text visibility is poor ). The Tabletalk was included in the Erlangen edition (volumes 57-62). So volume 59 is indeed The Tischreden.
This Tabletalk quote was collected by Conrad Cordatus. It's quite possible Cordatus didn't hear and record the comment himself. He is said to have taken Luther's comments from other sources. He later revised his Tabletalk notes, making stylistic changes. Because of this, Luther's Works (English edition) includes only a small sampling of those statements compiled by Cordatus.
The quote can be found in WA Tr 3:75, and in LW 54:180.
http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2010/09/luther-i-have-slain-all-peasants.html,P>Rome sure does hate Luther.. one little monk that started a revolution...
Luke 6;26 Blessed are you, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
Give some statistics, please, Salvation.
“Gutenberg and his printing press put fear into the hearts of the Catholic hierarchy...”
Excuse me, excuse me but
1) Gutenburg was a Roman Catholic
2) his bible was printed in LATIN and
3) was the Vulgate originally translated by St Jerome - a throughly Roman Catholic bible.
How was it that this Latin Catholic Vulgate Gutenburg printed bible struck terror into the hierarchy and brought (Latin??) to the oppressed masses???
Sounds like Protestant revisionism!
AMDG
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