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To: StormPrepper; Elsie; All
Not being married in the Temple does not keep anyone out of the Celestial kingdom of God, like you said it does.

Never said what you are claiming I said (the "married...in the temple" part as being an ABSOLUTE for living with Heavenly Father)...so please stop putting words in my mouth.

May I suggest you pay a wee more attention to the specific words keyboarded before you start going on personal accusation rampages?

I will cite to you the specific phrases I uttered in posts six and thirty...(& will even then add the context citation parenthetically):

Post #six: Even if single women get the temple rec, no hubby, no living with Heavenly Father eternally

In post #six, mentioned "temple rec" but did NOT mention being married IN the temple. Post #six was actually about single women...NOT married women (or where they get married).

Context of citation: Per Mormon theology, that trend (along with the trend away from Mormon temple recommends) means the overwhelming bulk of Mormons wont qualify to live with Heavenly Father forever. Simply because of those 2 missing elements: An eternal marriage & no temple rec. Even if single women get the temple rec, no hubby, no living with Heavenly Father eternally (Post #six)

Let's now jump to post #30 for a continuation of your proper interpretive tutorial, shall we?

Here was my one line pertaining to the "married...in the temple" question at hand:

"Obviously one of the 'covenants' Mormons are EXPECTED to enter into is marriage...and not only 'marriage,' but marriage 'for eternity' in the Mormon temple...so says the Mormon Encylopedia:

There. I used the word "expected."

An "expectation" is not necessarily defined as an absolute prerequisite. For example: All Mormon young adults are, in effect, "expected" by Mormon culture & Mormon leaders to serve as Lds missionaries; but by no means are all required. Hence, an "expectation" is exactly that!

Now, yes, that word "required" DID come up within my post...but if you want to call it an "error," by all means, label the BYU leaders who put together the Encyclopedia of Mormonism as "errorists"...for that is where the "requirement" claim that you have such issues with originated!!!

In fact, I will even go the next step and "high five" you & join with you in labeling them as errorists. Here is what THEY said that seemed to send you into a Mormon tizzy...note especially the last line:

“’Eternal life’ is a higher state than immortality alone and means to live forever in a resurrected condition in the presence of God, and to become like God…Eternal life is exaltation into the type and quality of life that God lives. Receiving eternal life is conditional, predicated upon obedience to the fullness of gospel law and ordinances (D&C 29:43-44; 130:20-21). It REQUIRES voluntary obedience to all of the ordinances and principles of the gospel…continuing through…the covenants of the Endowment and MARRIAGE IN THE TEMPLE (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, 2:677-678)

So it's these BYUites who claim:
"...exaltation...Receiving eternal life is conditional, predicated upon obedience to the fullness of gospel law and ordinances. It REQUIRES voluntary obedience to all of the ordinances and principles of the gospel...continuing through...the covenants of the Endowment"

'AND MARRIAGE IN THE TEMPLE' (Unquote)

Kind of interesting that in your haste to attempt to pin "error" upon my statements that you wind up lambasting the powers that be within BYU Mormonist theology!!!

So, tell you what...instead of attempting to manufacture false conflict 'tween the two of us, let's just pair up here! We actually seem to be ... at least upon THIS finetuned subject ... a match!

Of course, it's an error for the Encyclopedia of Mormonism to claim that you HAVE to be married (a "requirement") in the Mormon temple to receive exaltation/eternal life (what Lds theology defines as eternal life with heavenly father)!

We agree!!!!

In fact, let's just get it off of our chests with a nice all encompassing statement: Lds theology is just ONE HUGE ERROR!

40 posted on 04/24/2015 2:21:19 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; All
Never said what you are claiming I said (the "married...in the temple" part as being an ABSOLUTE for living with Heavenly Father)...so please stop putting words in my mouth.

[Colofornian]Me: Even if single women get the temple rec, no hubby, no living with Heavenly Father eternally.

Yes, you did. Those are your words. "..no hubby, no living with Heavenly Father eternally." Those are your words in black an white.

No hubby means a single woman. Single women cannot live with Heavenly Father. Don't try to weasel out of it, those are your words.

In post #six, mentioned "temple rec" but did NOT mention being married IN the temple. Post #six was actually about single women...NOT married women (or where they get married).

Let the pettifogging begin. Weasel words pure and simple.

You are in error. At least have the common decency to admit it.

No one needs to be married to enter the Celestial kingdom and live with Heavenly Father for eternity. A single woman, that's one without a "hubby" can live with Heavenly Father for eternity.

That's your error. Will you admit to it?
41 posted on 04/24/2015 8:16:37 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: Colofornian
..so please stop putting words in my mouth.

Good luck!

Mormonism has NO qualms about putting words in GOD's mouth; so I doubt you'll get no consideration at all.

44 posted on 04/25/2015 4:45:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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