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To: Campion

“Nobody prays to the shroud.”

This you cannot know without being omniscient.

“Nobody thinks that the shroud is god, or a god.”

They apparently believe it is a talisman or has power to bring them closer to God. It has no power.

“The shroud isn’t the image of a false god, at least if you are a Christian. It’s either the image of an ordinary man, or it’s the image of the God-man.”

Any image of any created thing that is set up and prayed to, adored, etc. is an idol.


8 posted on 04/20/2015 3:42:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Campion
This you cannot know without being omniscient.

The same way you can not know whether folks "worship" or "idolize" the cloth without being omniscient.

16 posted on 04/20/2015 3:58:39 PM PDT by piusv
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
In #5 you say that people idolize it. In #8, in response to "nobody prays to the shroud", you say that we can't know this without being omniscient. So how can YOU know that people idolize it, unless you are omniscient?

"Any image of any created thing that is set up and prayed to, adored, etc. is an idol."

Are you calling Jesus a "created thing"?

19 posted on 04/20/2015 4:44:11 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Cruz or lose!)
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