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To: CynicalBear
>>The Moslems also believe the one true God is "the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,"<<
Would you please give you proof of that?

Yaqub (Arabic: يَعْقُوب, translit.: Yaʿqūb ), also known as Jacob, is a prophet in Islam who is mentioned in the Qur'an.[1] He is acknowledged as a patriarch of Islam. Muslims believe that he preached the same monotheistic faith as did his forefathers: Ibrahim, Ishaq and Ismail. Yaʿqūb is mentioned 16 times in the Qur'an.[2] In the majority of these references, Jacob is mentioned alongside fellow Hebrew prophets and patriarchs as an ancient and pious prophet who remained in the "company of the elect".[3][4] Muslims hold that Jacob was the son of Isaac and that he preached the Oneness of God throughout his life. As in Christianity and Judaism, Islam holds that Jacob had twelve sons, each of which would go on to father the Twelve Tribes of Israel.[5] Jacob plays a significant role in the story of his son, Joseph, and is referenced around twenty-five times throughout the narrative.[6] The Qur'an further makes it clear that God made a covenant with Jacob[7] and Jacob was made a faithful leader by God's command.[8]

721 posted on 04/22/2015 9:25:48 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Wikipedia? Edited 5 days ago by Yamaguchi?

And nothing in your post contradicts the widely-held knowledge that Islam descends from Ishmael, not through Isaac and then Jacob.

Why are you defending Mohammedism?


723 posted on 04/22/2015 9:58:24 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: af_vet_1981; CynicalBear

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Boiler plate aside, The god Allah of the Quran does not share the attributes of Yehova, the God of Abraham.

Allah as described in the Quran is capricious and changing, giving sexual favors to those that seek Jihad, and there is no recognition of Allah having a son.

Allah is clearly the moon god, not Yehova.
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733 posted on 04/22/2015 11:46:14 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: af_vet_1981; CynicalBear
The god of the Muslims is not a triune God..He does not have a Son that is a part of that Trinity ..that died to save

Just like the god of the mormons and just like the god of the JWs he is a FALSE god

746 posted on 04/22/2015 12:32:09 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: af_vet_1981
Well, see, there's a problem already. God was not the God of Ishmael.

Genesis 17:21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

It would be through Isaac that Abraham's seed would be named.

Genesis 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Ishmael is called the seed of Hagar but never called the seed of Abraham. It was 13 years after the birth of Ishmael that God changed Abram to Abraham and promised:

Genesis 17:7 "And I will establish my covenant between me and you and your seed after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your seed after you. 8 And I will give to you and to your seed after you the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession, and I will be their God.

Notice that God never said He would be the God of the seed of Hagar. When Abraham said he wanted Ishmael to live before God he was told no that it was going to Isaac.

Genesis 17:18 And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee! 19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.

God never said He would be a God to Ishmael. He said He would be a God to Isaac. Ishmael didn't preach the God of His fathers so already there they are injecting a different god.

771 posted on 04/22/2015 2:01:25 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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