Three Things You're Probably Getting Wrong about Praying to the Saints

Shameless popery ^ | April 20, 2015

[Eucharista]

"I serve the God of scripture."

The Jews do not describe God the same as the New Testament. They never did. Are you saying they do not and did not worship the same God?

[Eucharista]

"Prior to Vatican II all non-Catholic churchgoers will go to Hell."

That was never Church doctrine.

[Eucharista]

"Oh really?"

The one sure sign of ignorance of Catholic teaching is to try to interpret Catholic doctrine and dogma by the actions of Catholics. After all, I would hate for anyone to presume you represent all "Christians".

[Resettozero]

Because God is truth those who do not pursue the truth regardless of where it leads them are rejecting who that truth.

Unclear sentence. Perhaps I can agree with you but I don't know because a word (or more) was lost.

[NKP_Vet]

Only one Catholic Church. PROTESTants there might be 100,000 or more denominations. You can start another one today if you want to. Go for it. Anything goes. All are their own authority. All are experts. All know more than the other one.

[Iscool]

"The union between the Immaculata and the Holy Spirit is so inexpressible, yet so perfect, that the Holy Spirit acts only by the Most Blessed Virgin..."---Manteau-Bonamy, Immaculate Conception, 91; F.X. Durrwell, The Holy Spirit of God (Cincinnati: Servant Books, 2006), 183-185

What?? That is amazing and so un-Biblical as to be blaspheme.

More and more Mary has become the central figure in Catholicism.

And that Catholic position may be taught by every priest, biship and pope who ever lived or ever will...But as long as it's not called Catholic doctrine, you can't claim that's what the Catholic religion teaches...

Immaculata, what a word!

That's Spanish, isn't it???

[Gamecock]

Yawn...

[metmom]

Does that mean you know it’s not permissible to call people liars on the RF?

You seem pretty familiar with how this forum runs......

[Iscool]

Often those least familiar with prayer are those who misunderstand and misrepresent Catholic prayer.

It's probably best if you guys stay away from the bong before you post on FR...

[Resettozero]

I am a certified Catechist by the Church

Thank you for providing some credentials and not being too antagonistic in your reply.

Certified Catechist by the RC cult is not recognized by everyone at this site as a valid reason for rude and arrogant behavior and for falsely presenting oneself as an expert on the Lord Jesus Christ and His Church.

One may know all about the RCC, as you endeavor to do, and know Jesus Christ personally not at all.

[af_vet_1981]

Now there's a stretch I haven't seen before. "throughout all of Jedea" now somehow translates to "catholic"?

ἐκκλησία καθ’ ὅλης

which translates as: churches throughout all
Acts, Catholic chapter nine, Protestant partial verse thirty one, as linked to the Greek, and translated as authorized by King James, albeit without the word "rest" since I did not list the Greek for it.

[smvoice]

I don’t have to “hope” since it is God’s Word that I quote, not my own. Bereans searched the Scriptures daily, to “see if those things are so”. And 2 Tim. 2:15 is our friend. I have bet my eternity on the grace of God and the blood of Christ for my justification and salvation. I am reconciled to God by Christ and am sealed unto the day of redemption. Those aren’t HOPES, those are TRUTHS.

[metmom]

Just when you think you’ve heard it all......

[ealgeone]

(Please refrain from bluffing with respect to knowing Catholic teaching. I am a certified Catechist by the Church. I will call you on it every time you try it.)

>>"And like how the creation days are viewed symbolically."<<

Please provide a citation because that is not Church teaching.

337 II. THE VISIBLE WORLD

337 God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day.204 On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation,205 permitting us to "recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God."206

You might want to start reviewing the ccc again.

I don't bluff.

[RnMomof7]

Which raises the question: How many passages of Scripture have been defined by the Magisterium of the Catholic Church?

4 or 5

[Resettozero]

You had better hope you are right because you have bet eternity on your own very limited powers of interpretation and discernment.

Same for all of us. You too.

Now, about these snide remarks slipping past...

"...on your own very limited powers..."

They're not.

[Resettozero]

And that is exactly why God didn't leave it up to you.

Or...even you.

[af_vet_1981]

I don’t have to “hope” since it is God’s Word that I quote, not my own. Bereans searched the Scriptures daily, to “see if those things are so”.

I see a common misconception about "The Bereans" often. The Jews living in Berea are simply contrasted with those in Thessaloniki, and were more noble than those in Thessaloniki, who behaved terribly, because 1) they received Paul's apostolic word with readiness of mind, and 2) searched the scriptures daily to confirm that word to themselves. Therefore many of them were able to come to faith in Jesus as Messiah. They in no way had authority to rule on whether what Paul taught about the Messiah was true or not. It was all true because Paul had that authority, not the Bereans.