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Mass Mob Planned at Star of the Sea Catholic Church (altar server protest)
Kathyschiffer ^ | April 17, 2015 | Kathy Schiffer

Posted on 04/18/2015 2:45:36 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 04/18/2015 2:45:36 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Reason 2 should be switched with Reason 1 ... ultimately, no boys, no priests. Ping!


2 posted on 04/18/2015 2:46:25 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer
to train only boys to be altar -servers- boys,
3 posted on 04/18/2015 2:48:22 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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**The second and more important reason, Illo said, is that “altar service is intrinsically tied to the priesthood and serve as feeder programs for the seminary.”**

BTTT!


4 posted on 04/18/2015 2:53:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I’ve only been to one Mass that featured an “altar girl” - naturally, a family event not my usual St. Agnes jaunt. That damned brat ran all over the place until the priest corralled her. How different from the little well-trained boys of my youth! That convinced me that No. Altar. Girls. Ever.


5 posted on 04/18/2015 2:55:15 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: NYer

The Laos tou Theou, are the guardians of orthodoxy...not hierarchs or the lower clergy. The Latins have a problem here, one of their own making.


6 posted on 04/18/2015 2:55:41 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: miss marmelstein
That convinced me that No. Altar. Girls. Ever.

Our Bishop Gregory Mansour banned girls from altar service many years ago. Since then, more boys have stepped forward to serve, fully appreciating the importance of their responsibilities. One 5 year ols pleaded with the priest to allow him to also serve. The priest acceded. His grandmother took a surplice and altered it to fit the child. He is now 10 and still serving at the altar. God bless our altar boys!

7 posted on 04/18/2015 3:25:19 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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Thank you for the info about a way to support Fr. Illo. He is an excellent priest and role model who serves college students with humility. The Star church in SF is beautiful and I’ll try to make it for the 4/25 evening mass.

Acolytes should be males in order to be in tune with the priest who is consecrating. Canon law gives the power to staff the acolytes with the Bishop and the pastor.


8 posted on 04/18/2015 3:28:44 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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Cardinal Raymond Burke: ‘Feminized’ church and altar girls caused priest shortage

Inaestimabile donum 18: "There are, of course, various roles that women can perform in the liturgical assembly: these include reading the Word of God and proclaiming the intentions of the Prayer of the Faithful. Women are not, however, permitted to act as altar servers", Pope John Paul II.

Of course, it's a woman's prerogative, and a pope's, to change their mind.

9 posted on 04/18/2015 3:32:46 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Altar girls, in my opinion, are not a good thing. However, since they’re permitted, we have to deal with them, and they can be made to behave as well as boys. The priests simply have to have a program that applies to all altar servers.

They have to dress properly. No heels for the girls, their hair should be tied back, and the boys have to be wearing proper shoes as well. But all of them should be strictly disciplined, which is something that would probably self-eliminate most of the girls.

One priest I knew used to have vocation retreats for all the altar servers over about the age of 12. The boys were looking at the seminary and religious orders, and the girls were looking at the (orthodox) religious orders. There actually weren’t any in that particular diocese, but some of them were allowed to send representatives to give presentations to the girls. And they did get vocations.

I thought that was a good way of using your lemons to make lemonade.


10 posted on 04/18/2015 3:34:29 PM PDT by livius
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So the “Mass Mob” is actually in favor of the pastors and their decision to ban altar girls at the parish...wasn’t clear from the title.


11 posted on 04/18/2015 3:38:16 PM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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What is a mass mob?


12 posted on 04/18/2015 3:45:46 PM PDT by piusv
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I tried to post this message:

I will say a rosary on your behalf. I love what you are doing.

To this day, people see altar service as a kind of apprenticeship to the priesthood. And that is right. Boys should be around the altar. The girls can join me in the rosary.

... but the sign-up thing didn't work for me. I tried several times and then gave up.

I wonder if they've been sabotaged by some cyber-bully?

13 posted on 04/18/2015 3:52:02 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (B.A.S.I.C. = "Brothers and Sisters in Christ")
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Have you ever heard of the choirs that descend on a shopping mall, and at a given signal, break out in song? There was a great video last Christmas of such a mob throughout the shopping center all singing the Hallelujah Chorus.

So a Mass Mob would be a group of people getting together to stuff the church full of supporters in this instance.

Sometimes you can look for the words “Flash Mob”.


14 posted on 04/18/2015 3:52:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: livius; miss marmelstein
Altar girls, in my opinion, are not a good thing. However, since they’re permitted, we have to deal with them, and they can be made to behave as well as boys. The priests simply have to have a program that applies to all altar servers.

I would strongly encourage you to make a general appeal to your local bishop to restore altar service strictly to boys. A good approach would be to research those dioceses that have eliminated altar girls then explore the growth of vocations in those dioceses. Better yet, would be to start a petition and obtain signatures from like minded parishioners.

15 posted on 04/18/2015 3:53:05 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I think it has to be by personal invitation. A lot better, though, if there is a decree from the Bishop.


16 posted on 04/18/2015 3:53:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: piusv
What is a mass mob?

Catholic Mass Mobs: A New Hot Trend?

17 posted on 04/18/2015 3:56:17 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: livius

Those lemons shouldn’t be there in the first place. No parish is required to have female servers. Priests should resist. The first step should be a catechesis of the faithful. This isn’t happening because many priests are incapable of catechising their people, or else are afraid to.


18 posted on 04/18/2015 3:58:26 PM PDT by Romulus
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The second and more important reason, Illo said, is that “altar service is intrinsically tied to the priesthood and serve as feeder programs for the seminary.”

Poor kids...Not only are they brainwashed at a very young age to become priests, they also must be encouraged at the age of puberty to reject the natural attraction for the opposite sex...

19 posted on 04/18/2015 4:08:20 PM PDT by Iscool
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Altar service is a gentle prod toward the priesthood that is wasted on the girls and the girl altarboys turn the boys off. And as with turning over the various “ministries” to the women in a church, the men (and the boys) lose interest and compartmentalize “church” as something women do. The churches often become essentially women’s clubs.


20 posted on 04/18/2015 4:19:29 PM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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