[metmom]

So we agree, they are dead from our human perspective, but in reality, they are more alive than us.

They are not "more alive" than the born again believer. In the spiritual realm, the born again believer is just as alive as they are because we are all alive in Christ and you can't become more alive than that.

[caww]

The day we accepted Jesus’s sacrifice in it's all sufficiency is the day our life and eternal destination changed from a death sentence to life everlasting....... Therefore from now on we recognize no one according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him in this way no longer.....

"Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us 'to Himself through Christ'....2 cor.5:17

"I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh"............. "Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.".........Ezekiel 36:26/John 3:3

The word 'Therefore' makes a difference...