[caww]

You can go back as far as The Wars and see the Vatican Popes very much involved....taking one side then another throughout history when it comes to 'Political' Stances the catholic church has taken throughout History...it has not changed...Rome is a Political entity. .

[delchiante]

The first reformers had very pointed opinions of the papacy and the pope.

Seat of Antichrist and antichriats, respectively.

The Puritans had pointed opinions on Christmas and easter being Popish..

400 plus years and :
Popes are rock stars and leading head of state
Christmas and easter are not Catholic holy days but christian holy days.
The world runs on a calendar named after a pope.

Prophetic times..
Those three things would prove that the world has a big thumbs up for Rome and the reformers have softened..