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1 posted on 04/14/2015 1:44:57 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 04/14/2015 1:45:27 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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That whole meat on Fridays thing? It’s changed about a dozen times since I was a kid.

First it was a sin to eat meat on any Friday, then only certain Fridays, then only during Lent. Then eating meat on Friday is okay. Now I’m not sure.

So is gluttony Tuesday okay or is that a sin? Point is, sin by Biblical standards is immutable. God is holy He doesn’t change His position on sin.

Just sayin’.


3 posted on 04/14/2015 1:49:39 PM PDT by Obadiah (Israel had King Manasseh, America has Obama.)
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If it was a Church rule that established that eating meat on Fridays is a sin, the Church can rescind such. What it can’t do is rescind a sin if it was established by God, such as the 10 commandments.


4 posted on 04/14/2015 1:50:08 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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In the case of eating meat on Fridays, that was a Church-created sin in the first place, as there is absolutely nothing in Scripture that addresses the topic.

Playing a bit fast and loose with the “what you loose here shall be loosed in Heaven” clause IMO.


5 posted on 04/14/2015 1:51:48 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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It boils down to what is moral law - which cannot be changed, and what is Church law. The moral law would be going to Mass on Sunday because it comes from the Decalogue. The Church law would be how long to fast before receiving the Eucharist.


11 posted on 04/14/2015 2:03:33 PM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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Some seem to think he can put people in and out of heaven at will.


12 posted on 04/14/2015 2:04:51 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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Our diocese observes the no meat on Friday rule during Lent, so that we are joined together in a sacrifice that unites us. The rest of the year, I don’t worry about it. I think it was more of a sacrifice before vegan and vegetarians became so common. Fish is easy to obtain and going out for lobster and shrimp is hardly a sacrifice. I RME at this one most of the time.


14 posted on 04/14/2015 2:09:21 PM PDT by tioga
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I should add that after the fasting and abstinence of Lent, it indeed feels like a time of celebration that it is. He is risen. Alleluia.


15 posted on 04/14/2015 2:11:13 PM PDT by tioga
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Does anyone know what the reason was for changing this rule? I mean, was abstaining from meat every Friday really such a problem?


16 posted on 04/14/2015 2:12:09 PM PDT by piusv
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Never believed it to be a sin. It was a kick for the fish industry


18 posted on 04/14/2015 2:13:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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I’ve been for a long time perplexed that one could go to Red Lobster on Friday, have a shrimp cocktail appetizer, lobster dinner with a nice bottle of wine, and a cheesecake dessert in a State of Grace, whereas if you stayed home and had a cold can of beans-and-franks you were in a State of Sin.


23 posted on 04/14/2015 2:34:27 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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My mom so old school she remember not eating meat on Friday until mid 1960s


40 posted on 04/14/2015 3:39:57 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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There are many reasons I thank God for having delivered me from the legalistic Catholic Church. This “mortal sin” issue is one of them. As if God is keeping a calculator and “sin ledger” on each person! We create our own eternal judgment, according to how we care for others and love God. Our Heavenly Father isn’t the one to decide where our heart and spirit ends up. We do. Sorry to offend staunch Catholics, but I’m so grateful God delivered me from what was a mental prison for me. Our entire family is delivered, and it’s a blessing.


46 posted on 04/14/2015 4:02:13 PM PDT by Laura Lee (People Power)
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Thank you for this thread...I needed to be reminded why...


58 posted on 04/15/2015 3:39:45 AM PDT by aimee5291
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