Posted on 04/10/2015 6:19:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
Yes, we did. And he loves bacon, and all, as he calls it, “pork products.”
During Passover, I had him watch a program with a Jewish rabbi that shows the Jewish antecedents to Christianity preaches the way to Jesus. No effect.
My husband showed me the way to conservatism and blesses the evangelical Christians who bravely are at the fore of our country’s moral battles.
I know our God is a merciful God.
If you know any good Jewish jokes, pass them on. I gift them to him on his birthday.
Thanks for the funny thoughts.
I hope and pray that there will be a fifth time with the upcoming synod and its aftermath.
I'm not sure that your conclusion is correct...on what grounds are you ineligible??
a rose, by any other name.....if you like ekklesia, so be it....it is really the church....and Catholic at that.
Good for you. I’ll bet if you both pray to the Blessed Mother together, he’ll come around in no time.
“Given the terrible problems your denomination is having with its leadership, denying the Lord’s Supper to individuals who want to seek God seems the least of your problems... As an example... http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3218873/posts There are many more I could post. Those seem far more important issues, that if not changed will end what is left of the Roman Denomination.”
Yeah, I have numerous friends who left the church because of this very issue and whose children were subsequently not raised in the church.
For 2,015 years the Catholic church has been doing just fine thank you....these important issues, and hundreds of others have challenged the church since Christ established it. Remember that He promised that He would be with her until the end of time and so far He is doing just fine!!!
That'll show them...and they dragged their children down with them....brilliant.
There should be no reason for a fifth time.
And note that the very first time the heresy was broached was at VC II.
Amen!
If I had a nickel for every time I heard or read that the Catholic Church is in trouble, I’d have...a lot of nickels!
The gates of hell shall not prevail against the Catholic Church.
“That’ll show them...and they dragged their children down with them....brilliant. “
Uh, they left because the church rejected them.
The Germans seem fond of “solutions.”
I believe this is true as I have talked to a Catholic priest about this. One can file to have a marriage annulled, giving particulars about the marriage and the “ex” has to also do this, then those papers go to a group whose job it is to determine if the marriage can be annulled. It is my belief, if one is famous/rich, the annulment will happen. Plain, ordinary people, may or may not get the annulment. Be married for many years with children and grandchildren, as the Kennedys, still get the annulment.
Why is it Nancy Pelosi is definitely for abortion, and is still totally accepted by the Catholic Church of which she is a member? I don't hear of her not being able to take the sacrament and certainly hasn't been kicked out of the Catholic church.
There are strict Catholic rules for common people but not for the elite and that makes the Catholic church guilty of hypocrisy - they say this is the rule but not really for some.
I am a Catholic.
“...the church since Christ established it. Remember that He promised that He would be with her until the end of time and so far He is doing just fine!!!”
The church Christ is speaking of is HIS church composed of all believers in Him. This is not an earthly church but HIS heavenly church of believers.
Boy, are you going to be disappointed.
Funny how mortal men can decide to "annul" a marriage but claim that God can't be communed with by those who haven't had the experience doled out to them by some other flawed person (we are all flawed from the basest criminal to the highest Pope). I have trouble grasping the real intent and ramification here.
Good points. We shouldn't even be in this predicament.
"Are [those barred from Communion] also barred from Heaven or is it just used as a stigma like a big red "A" on their foreheads?"
No, they are not barred from Heaven (only God is a just judge on this); nor is it supposed to be a big red "A" on their foreheads. In fact, it needn't be known to any but themselves.
That "needn't be known" is a little difficult when, as is the very loose custom now, practically everybody --- including the scandalous Pelosi--- goes up for Communion whether they were well disposed spiritually or not. The optics are like a Chinese Fire Drill, and those who don't go can look visually isolated. I know that when I have judged myself unprepared for Communion (e.g. because I violated even the very nominal "fast") I have felt a tiny twinge as if somebody might notice and think, "What's with her? Is she in mortal sin?"
This is mitigated in parishes where people (even non-Christians) can get in the communion line and ask the priest for a blessing, rather than receive the Sacred Host. But as I understand it, not all parishes do it that way.
So why are the divorced-and-remarried turned away from Communion? For the simple reason that they have, by remarriage, publicly proclaimed that they are involved in an ongoing sexual union with a person not their spouse (the new "marital partner") which Jesus called, three different times, adultery (Matthew 19:9; Mark 10:11-122; Luke 16:18). Painful word. I didn't make that up, and no hierarch of the Catholic made that up. That is Christ's word,He used it repeatedly, and dang it all, we're stuck with it.
So to give people Communion when they're in an ongoing relation of sin, does severe harm in three ways:
(1 Cor 11:27-29) "So whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord.
But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread, and drink of the cup.
For he that eats and drinks, eat and drink condemnation unto himself, if he discern not the body."
So good pastoral care of the divorced-remarried couple, should include protecting them from bringing this curse upon themselves.
By the way, giving Communion to public, overt, unrepentant abortion-promoters and gay-marriage-promoters like Pelosi, Cuomo, and the rest of the apostate-Catholics, sends exactly the same message, and is horribly wrong for exactly the same reasons.
"Funny how mortal men can decide to "annul" a marriage..."
Well, would it be better for people to be trapped in a marriage which never was a marriage to begin with, because of some defect that rendered it void? What if a man married a woman and then found out "she" was a tranny? What if a woman married a man who deceived her and never intended an exclusive, faithful, lifelong marriage from the git-go? What if this was a very young couple, pushed into marriage via bribes and threats from their parents?
Those would not have been valid marriages to begin with: it is simple justice that there must be a tribunal which would examine the evidence, make the determination that there was no bond, and free the two to go forward with their lives not burdened with a false union.
"... but claim that God can't be communed with by those who haven't had the experience doled out to them by some other flawed person (we are all flawed from the basest criminal to the highest Pope). "
It's not a question, broadly speaking, of who can "commune" with God. Any sinner can make fruitful contact with God with every prayer of true contrition. If a person in a situation of mortal sin wants to "commune" sacramentally, the way to do it is to go to Confession --- that's the sacrament for them ---and from that time forward, abstain from adulterous acts.
I hope this explanation helps. If you have further questions, or even objections, please go ahead and ask me again.
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