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NJ Catholic Bishop Won’t Say If He Agrees With Church Teaching on Homosexuality, Marriage
cnsnews.com ^ | April 6, 2015 | Michael W. Chapman

Posted on 04/06/2015 6:29:36 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: piusv

It’s definitely heretical. Practically every other word will summon to mind a major heresy of the first centuries (the ones that never go away but always crop,up again in new guises).

But as one Spanish poster said, it’s going to be the hit of the Sunday mass in now time at all. I’d provide a link, but the you tube is unavailable in this country for copyright reasons. I saw it last week when I was in Mexico City for Holy Week.


41 posted on 04/07/2015 4:25:33 AM PDT by livius
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To: Steelfish

bfl


42 posted on 04/07/2015 4:29:46 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." -- Flannery O'Connor)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

“come out of her my people lest ye be partakers of her plagues”.


43 posted on 04/07/2015 5:26:31 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Mercat
He knows that they are just looking for a sound bite.

That's what I thought as I read it. Sounds like somebody is fishing to ensnare a Catholic bishop into a Mike Pence moment.

44 posted on 04/07/2015 6:01:57 AM PDT by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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To: ebb tide

And absolutely nothing will happen to this bishop. Tells us all we need to know about this compromised cult.


45 posted on 04/07/2015 6:32:55 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: ebb tide

Trust the media to not twist what ever you say around.


46 posted on 04/07/2015 7:09:33 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: boatbums; Steelfish

1) “...but the “Church” is YOU....”. 2) “It’s NOT the hierarchy or the bigwigs in Rome....”.

As you say, God identified the “people of God”, in terms of “His people”.

Over them there was always appointed, in the Old Testament, the Levite priesthood, and in also the New Testament, the Great Prophets, the priesthood, the shepherds of the people. Christ Jesus identified the people of God— the Church.

Over the Church, He breathed on the Apostles and He charged the Twelve with authority, to go into the world and preach the Gospel. He charged them with shepherding the people that the people might be blessed, confessed, absolved, taught and counseled and FED, by His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Holy Eucharist.

Outside of the Holy Eucharist of the Holy Catholic Church, you have good people who well love God but deny His commands, torture His Sacred Scripture and cut off nearly all understanding for His fulfillment of the Law, by Jesus the Christ, and reject the necessity of obedience to the sweet sacraments, laid out, and foreshadowed in the Old Testament to always identify for the world His People, the Church, made counter to the popular culture by those very sacraments, Tradition and teaching.

The countless givens in Sacred Scripture were the Sacraments. What was OT circumcision into the sheepfold became, now, Baptism. What was commanded by God, in the OT consumption of the blessed perfect Lamb, became now the consumption of the Holy Eucharist of John 6. And, so on....and on.

The Sacred Scripture, the Gospel and the Letters bear witness to the Truth, but ALL that Jesus said and did is not expressed nor explained therein, as the scripture itself attests.

We have the Didache, the Early Fathers, the Apostolic Fathers, all full of the context of the practices and authorities and teachings given to the Church, comforted by the Holy Spirit, Spouse of Mary, daughter of the Father, Mother to the Son, and spouse to the Holy Spirit.

So, yes, for a layperson, there is duty and conscience to consider, for what first of all God has in mind for the Church to suffer, and what might be necessarily addressed by the people in the name of correction and grievance.

Thank you for your understanding and the generosity of your tone. I thought your reasonable advise deserved my frank objection, in order to properly explain my struggle from my point of view. You don’t seem to mind being frank, so it’s best that I be frank. Thx, Rita


47 posted on 04/07/2015 11:05:25 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: boatbums

I should have proofed better. I had a thoroughly oops moment by mistakenly ascribing the Prophets to the NT. I was trying to do some editing and missed by boobery there.


48 posted on 04/07/2015 11:10:23 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Mercat

If the bishop truly believed in traditional Catholic teaching, why did he fire a teacher for posting those same teachings on her personal Facebook account?


49 posted on 04/07/2015 4:18:34 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: boatbums; Steelfish
Perhaps your letter would actually have the effect you want if you left off the blatant anti-Protestant garbage.

"Protestant," and "Evil" are not interchangeable terms, Fish. Neither is "Catholic," and "Evil." "Heretic," of course, can be used to cover both "Protestant" and "Catholic," depending upon which part of Belfast you are from.

50 posted on 04/07/2015 11:14:54 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Still complaining about Obama? You ain't a thinker. Just a sore loser.)
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