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To: Mrs. Don-o; Iscool
>>Anything that is contrary to --- that is, strictly ruled out by ---Scripture, is not part of Apostolic Tradition.<<

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Now please show an infallible source that proves that what the Catholic Church teaches as "tradition" is exactly what the apostles taught.

808 posted on 04/14/2015 4:54:16 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

-— Now please show an infallible source that proves that what the Catholic Church teaches as “tradition” is exactly what the apostles taught. -—

The Church is “the pillar and foundation of truth,” protecting Apostolic Tradition, as handed down “by word of mouth or by letter.”

“if he won’t listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector.” —Jesus

Of course, this argument rests on the inerrancy of Scripture, which would have to have come from an infallible church.

Church infallibility can be proven with moral certainty by simply treating the New Testament as a historical document, so the argument is not circular.

Google “Jimmy Akin spiral argument” for the details


811 posted on 04/14/2015 5:10:13 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: CynicalBear
What is contained in Sacred Tradition is not "another gospel." If that were so, any writings of Christians, from that day to this, could be termed "other gospels."

Infallible source? That would be the Church, because She has authority from God and the power from the Holy Spirit to settle disputes and establish true doctrines. And the infallible way we know that, is from infallible Holy Scripture.

"You are Peter; and upon this Rock I will build My Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. - Matt. 16:18

"The Church of the living God, the Pillar and Foundation of the Truth." - 1 Timothy 3:5

"If they refuse to listen even to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector." - Matthew 18:17

"However when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth; for He shall not speak from Himself, but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak; and He will show you things to come." John 16:13

"He that heareth you heareth Me, and he that despiseth you despiseth Me, and he that despiseth Me despiseth Him that sent Me.” -Luke 10:16

I've go a pretty good hunch that these will be ignored, minimized, and explained away by many; but there are, perhaps, lurkers, who can read Scripture with unclouded eyes and get the gist of it: for them I write.

As for you, my dear old CynicalBear, the Lord be with you.

820 posted on 04/14/2015 6:53:42 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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