I did say something along these lines in terms of my "scriptural" reference in my earlier post--not in specific terms about the Lord's Prayer, but in terms of the overall scriptural "witness." In other words, I consider this line of argument stronger than other lines.
I did say something along these lines in terms of my "scriptural" reference in my earlier post--not in specific terms about the Lord's Prayer, but in terms of the overall scriptural "witness." In other words, I consider this line of argument stronger than other lines.
That Christ is the only heavenly mediator btwn man and God (1Tim. 2:5) is a strong argument, while the utter absence of other things are as well.
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“What saith the Scriptures?” (Rm. 4:3; 11:2; Gal. 4:30) “Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. (Proverbs 30:6)” |
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Prayers in Scripture addressed to God in Heaven |
Over 200 prayers, besides instruction on prayer to Heaven. (“Our Father who art in Heaven,” not “Out Mother.”) |
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Prayers in Scripture addressed to any created beings in Heaven |
ZERO prayers or examples, or in instruction on prayer to Heaven |
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Examples or teaching showing God being able to hear and respond to prayer from earth addressed to Him in Heaven. |
Multiple. “I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will heal thee..” (2 Kings 20:5; cf. Ps. 65:2; 66:19,20; Lk 1:13) |
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Examples or teaching showing created beings being able to hear and respond to prayer from earth addressed to them in Heaven. |
ZERO. Angels and elders offering up prayers before the judgments of the last days in memorial (Rev. 5:8 and 8:3,4; f. Lv. 2:2,15,16; 24:7; Num. 5:15) does not constitute this ability, which is unique to God. |
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Examples or teaching showing God able to personally communicate with man from Heaven. |
Many. For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. (2 Corinthians 12:8-9) |
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Examples or teaching showing created beings being able to converse with man from Heaven. |
ZERO. From what I see, all two-way communication required both created beings to somehow be consciously operating in the same realm. |
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Examples or teaching Christ as being the heavenly intercessor between man and God. |
Many. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (1 Timothy 2:5) For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted. (Hebrews 2:18) For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. (Hebrews 4:15-16) Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. (Hebrews 7:25) |
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Examples or teaching any as created beings as heavenly intercessor between man and God. |
ZERO. See under 2 above. |