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To: DJ MacWoW; All
No. Paul wanted everyone to read it. If God had wanted it it would be in the Bible. Do you honestly believe that the Creator is helpless?!

So what you're saying is there are things in the Bible that didn't originate with God, that's just man's opinion?

If God had wanted it it would be in the Bible. Do you honestly believe that the Creator is helpless?!

1. You're assuming God wanted a "Bible" and forced it's creation.
2. You're asserting that God forces His will on people.
3. The bottom line is you're statement leads to the conclusion that God doesn't allow men to commit certain sin.

My point is that God gave us all scripture. Men removed what parts of that scripture they didn't like, added what they did and called their work "Holy".

God never intended for men to have limited access to His words.


513 posted on 03/25/2015 11:10:11 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper
God never intended for men to have limited access to His words.

Having read the manner of thinking you've expressed in your posts on this thread, I wonder if you consider yourself a novice, a moderate, or an expert of some standing regarding LDS theology.

Do most members have this degree of understanding LDS theology or just the elite leaders?
514 posted on 03/25/2015 11:17:59 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: StormPrepper; Resettozero; DJ MacWoW; Alex Murphy; Gamecock
My point is that God gave us all scripture. Men removed what parts of that scripture they didn't like, added what they did and called their work "Holy".

We have some strange ideas posted on a forum which is a pro-God site. Meaning the one and only true Judeo-Christian God as taught to us by KJV with no additional editing or books of fiction. Such as the Book of Mormon.

Sorry you have a problem with that, and those who uphold it. But just what are you following? Mormon? Roy Masters? Gnostics? Swendenborg?

515 posted on 03/25/2015 11:19:50 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: StormPrepper
1. You're assuming God wanted a "Bible" and forced it's creation.

1. Wrong: You're assuming inspiring men to express what God wanted is forcing His creation.

2. You're asserting that God forces His will on people.

2. Wrong. You are asserting that God must force man in order to accomplish His will, and that God's will cannot be accomplished if some men do not choose to obey him. Thus the words of God which He wanted to preserve on earth perished from the earth.

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: (Isaiah 46:10)

3. The bottom line is you're statement leads to the conclusion that God doesn't allow men to commit certain sin.

3. Wrong. The bottom line is you're statement leads to the conclusion that God cannot allow men to commit certain sins and still accomplish His will, unless He forces them to obey Him.

My point is that God gave us all scripture.

And just where you get that certainty from? If it is from 2Tim. 3:15, then your must assent to what the writer and His Lord manifestly held Scripture as being, with the Lord referencing the tripartite canon of the Law and the Prophets and the Writings (Wisdom books). There goes all other religions but OT Judaism, while the NT writings were established as conflative (in word, spirit and power) and complimentary to the OT ones, and thus were progressively established as being Scripture.

Now you come 2k years later and want to open the canon to all sorts of things which they rejected. Based upon your judgment and what community?

God never intended for men to have limited access to His words.

God never intended for men to not discern what was of God early on, but have the vast open canon your reasoning leads to. You make a mockery of the judgment of generations of souls which manifested the heavenly qualities and attestation which corresponded to what was written. And instead seem to want us to heed an immoral man who died shooting at others.

530 posted on 03/25/2015 11:42:06 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: StormPrepper
So what you're saying is there are things in the Bible that didn't originate with God, that's just man's opinion?

You said Paul gives instructions to read the epistle of Laodicea. PAUL wanted everyone to read it. That doesn't mean that God did.

Men removed what parts of that scripture they didn't like, added what they did and called their work "Holy".

What you're saying is that God is helpless and cannot direct man. Your god may be helpless but The God I worship is in control of everything.

534 posted on 03/25/2015 11:48:53 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: StormPrepper
1. You're assuming God wanted a "Bible" and forced it's creation.

Well!

It's no WONDER that GOD allowed Joseph to be killed!!!

He didn't obey Him by putting the Laodicea stuff in the JST!!

577 posted on 03/25/2015 12:46:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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