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To: StormPrepper; All
Not all of the books chosen by the council of men in 382AD is about the Messiah.

Chosen? 382AD?

Not chosen...merely "received" it..."confirmed" that which the Holy Spirit already set apart, to the obvious discernment of early church fathers:

The early church fathers (97-180) quoted from 28 of the 29 New Testament books.
* In fact, EVERY New Testament book was referenced pre-150 except Philemon and 3 John.
* The 170 A.D. Muratorian Canon had only excluded Hebrews, James, and 3 John.
* Would it be possible to cull together the New Testament from what they wrote within 150-200 years from the time of Christ? (Answer? Yes...Well, yes, minus 11 verses)

The Holy Spirit...
...inspired the Bible...
...canonized the Bible;
...what greater authority do you need?

12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. ...15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.” (John 16)

346 posted on 03/24/2015 7:30:31 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; StormPrepper

The Holy Spirit...
...inspired the Bible...
...canonized the Bible;
...what greater authority do you need?


None.

But some people think they have some golden plates miraculously translated by someone with their head in their hat.

Or was that ‘talking out of his hat’? I forget which...


347 posted on 03/24/2015 7:45:14 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Colofornian; All
Not chosen...merely "received" it..."confirmed" that which the Holy Spirit already set apart, to the obvious discernment of early church fathers:

This is filling in the gaps from hind sight to appear legitimate.

Solomon Song was Solomon's love sonets to his concubines. I doubt if the Holy Spirit set those apart for anything...

There were many more writings. And YES chosen. The so called "early church fathers" acted without authority. They had no authority to cull anything. Only a prophet with direct communication from God can do that.

Paul stated before he died:
2 Timothy 1:
15 This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me;

All those in Asia had gone apostate. Which included the Church in Ephesus.

These so called "church fathers" created an apostate church and gave it a short volume of scripture guaranteed to confuse the true doctrine of God for 1800 years. Down to the utter vast chaos that is "Christianity" today.

A church so violent that it would have killed any true prophet God would have tried to raise up. And did in fact kill people by the tens of thousands in the most horrific ways imaginable. Started wars...millions died needlessly.

Tens of thousands died in order to gain religious freedom from the clutches of that church too.

The true Church of God had one and only one father and that was Jesus Christ. He created His Church.

You call these men "early church fathers". In essence that's true. They are the fathers of their own church. Jesus started His and these men started theirs.

History and the current state of the "church" today shows this to be true.
374 posted on 03/24/2015 9:49:12 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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