[Seraphicaviary]

Mediatrix is not to place her on the same level as Christ. If you pray for me, then you are a mediator for me to Christ. Mary just does it on a wide scale. Her intercession is a great thing, but its absence is not an obstacle to salvation.

If you are going to use arguments from Catholic thought, then you need to use them as Catholics understand the words.

[CynicalBear]

>>If you are going to use arguments from Catholic thought, then you need to use them as Catholics understand the words.<<

O Mother of God, Immaculate Mary, to thee do I dedicate my body and soul, all my prayers and deeds, my joys and sufferings, all that I am an all that I have. With a joyful heart I surrender myself to thy love. To thee will I devote my services of my own free will for the salvation of mankind, and for the help of the Holy Church whose Mother thou art.
From now on my only desire is to do all things with thee, through thee, and for thee. I know I can accomplish nothing by my own strength, whereas thou can do everything that is the will of thy Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ. Thou are always victorious. Grant, therefore, O Helper of the Faithful, that my family, my parish, and my country might become in truth the Kingdom where thou reignest in the glorious presence God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, forever and ever. Amen. [http://www.marypages.com/PrayerstoMary.htm]

Tell us how Catholics understand those words different then would be normal. Tell us how that is only asking Mary to pray for you. Tell us that is not replacing Christ with Mary.

[Resettozero]

If you are going to use arguments from Catholic thought, then you need to use them as Catholics understand the words.

Poppycock!

This thought process is a hole being dug to Hell that you'll never fully dig yourself out of.

You think far too highly of your own religious education.

[HossB86]

If you are going to use arguments from Catholic thought, then you need to use them as Catholics understand the word

That's the heart of the problem: the words have but one meaning. Roman Catholicism tries to change what they mean to conform to a non-biblical doctrine.

When I pray for someone, or they pray for me, I am praying to God...not Mary. She's not omniscient; she hears no prayer. Only The Almighty does.

Hoss

[metmom]

We don’t need a mediator to get to Jesus.

[Iscool]

If you pray for me, then you are a mediator for me to Christ

You couldn't be more wrong...Intercessor, maybe...But definitely not a mediator...

[Elsie]

Mary just does it on a wide scale.

So teaches your chosen religion.

The BIBLE; however; does NOT indicate that Mary is anything more than DEAD at this time.

[Elsie]

If you are going to use arguments from Catholic thought, then you need to use them as Catholics understand the words.

 

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,

' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'