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To: sasportas
>>The first horseman rides forth to conquer…militarily, and we have the beginning of sorrows (birth pains) Jesus prophesied.<<

You still aren't answering the question. Who gave the white horseman the crown and authority to conquer?

>>Which leads to the next, after having conquered, the antichrist takes rule over the world<<

The anti Christ doesn't begin to conquer untill 3 1/2 years into the last seven years of Daniel's prophesie. For the first 3 1/2 years it's peace. So your scenario does not fit prophsie at all.

>>perhaps it has something to do with the pretrib system that is so engrained in you?<<

LOL! Engrained in me? I grew up in an environment of post trib. Neither mid trib nor post trib can account for the last seven years due the nation of Israel.

183 posted on 03/17/2015 5:22:58 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

CBear, you are a FR warrior, mighty good at debating, a formidable opponent of the Papists, etc., on these threads. However, that is not what I am doing here. If that is what I wanted to do, I’d be throwing stuff back in your teeth. But I’m trying to talk heart to heart with you about things dear to both of us. Apparently, you can’t see that.

Making the first horseman the first of the end time wrath of God, is indeed essential to you, and the pretrib system, and you know it.

You have yet to say anything about the seals being based on Jesus in the olivet discourse. If you reject that, just say so, then we’ll drop this, and we can both move on.

No need “to beat a dead horse,” pun intended.


184 posted on 03/17/2015 11:12:39 AM PDT by sasportas
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