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To: sasportas
>>You are getting into an area I don’t care to go.<<

I wonder why?

>>Does God create and allow evil, and all that kind of philosophical stuff.<<

Did God send armies to conquer Israel when they had forsaken Him?

>>The first horseman is just following Jesus’ prediction of the antichrist, to the disciples, the first sign of what is to come.<<

So who sent the first horseman out? And who gave him his crown and the ability to conquer?

180 posted on 03/16/2015 4:53:51 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

The first horseman rides forth to conquer…militarily, and we have the beginning of sorrows (birth pains) Jesus prophesied. Just the first phase of the antichrist’s career.

Which leads to the next, after having conquered, the antichrist takes rule over the world, the mark of the beast implemented, martyrdom ensues. Also prophesied by Jesus as the great tribulation.

Next, the wrath of God which you are so fixated upon. The wrath of God upon all who have taken the mark, and have submitted to the antichrist one world socialist government. Also prophesied by Jesus, Matt. 29-31.

A very good general outline if you ask me. Makes plenty of good prophetic sense. The rise of the antichrist, his rule and persecution, his demise...and wrath of God upon him and all who have fallen for his antichrist lies.

What I’m getting at here: the wrath of God is not what the imagery of the first five seals are about, the sixth seal, yes. The first five seals preconditions that lead into the sixth.

You are intent on making the first five seals the wrath of God, perhaps it has something to do with the pretrib system that is so engrained in you? I.e., the pretrib rapture takes place, which in turn ushers in the wrath of God…seen first in the seals. Not so.


181 posted on 03/16/2015 5:41:22 PM PDT by sasportas
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