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**Your reference to his own receiving him not and being the woman is totally out of character with Revelation Twelve.** That’s your church’s vain imagination. After Jesus ascended, she was in the upper room for days waiting for the Holy Ghost, not in the wilderness. You believe it literally is Mary. Is it literally the Sun that clothes her? Is it literally the moon that she stands on? Was there literally a dragon, as described, in the stable? “And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he he might cause her to be carried away like a flood. And the earth opened HER mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the REMNANT of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testamony of Jesus Christ.” Rev.12:15-17 The earth is in the feminine, just like Israel. The REMNANT of her seed. The Israel of God. **It is about a real woman, Miriam, the blessed Virgin of Israel, who personifies and incompasses not only Israel, but the holy catholic apostolic church..** Wow, you folks really do believe she is equal with God.

The sun is a symbol
The moon is a symbol
The dragon is a symbol
The woman is Miriam, who also encompasses Israel and the holy catholic apostolic church. The symbolism is compatible with the first mention of the symbols in Joseph's dream.
Without Miriam, you have no she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne, no remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
You cannot separate Miriam from her son, the man child, who is God with us, nor from Israel, nor from the holy catholic apostolic church.
You falsely accuse me of equating Miriam with God. She is not equal with God and to falsely accuse me, or her, is unprofitable for you.

Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
James, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses thirteen to eighteen, as authorized, but not authored, by King James

**The sun is a symbol
The moon is a symbol
The dragon is a symbol**

You agree to symbolism, but reserve the woman to literally be a woman (Mary/Miriam). Adjusting the story fit a preconceived notion is private interpretation.

As I said, the nation of Israel is the woman. Here are just a few references of Israel in the feminine:

Jeremiah 31:4; Amos 5:1,2, speak of the ‘virgin of Israel’ in prophetic passages about the nation.

Jer. 6:2, speaks of the ‘daughter of Zion’ in a passage clearly about the nation.

Jer. 4:30,31. “And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do? Though thou clothest thyself with crimson, though thou deckest thee with ornaments of gold, though thou rentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair; thy lovers will seek thy life. For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, and the anguish as of her that bringeth forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, that bewaileth herself, that spreadeth her hands, saying, Woe is me now! for my soul is wearied because of murderers”.

Isaiah 40:2, “Spesk comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the lord’s hand double for all her sins.”

Isaiah 51:3 “For the Lord shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the Lord; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody”.

I said before: After Jesus ascended, Mary was in the upper room for days waiting for the Holy Ghost, not in the wilderness.

The REMNANT of her seed, is the remnant that the Lord saves after the tribulation.

Mary is of Israel, not Israel of Mary. And know that neither Jesus Christ, nor his apostles EVER used the phrase ‘God the Son’, but always used the phrase ‘Son of God’. I believe that they completely understood the Godhead.

Are you ‘Free Republic the af_vet_1981’, or are you ‘af_vet_1981 of Free Republic’?